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The only thing clear about the results at this point is that Iowa will probably be fired from their first in the nation status on voting. If there was ever a u

The only thing clear about the results at this point is that Iowa will probably be fired from their first in the nation status on voting. If there was ever a use for the phrase “You had one job!”

Hamuko 7y ago
How will that even work?
- Lavery 7y ago
  Other states have tried to go before Iowa in the past--being the first state to vote has significant benefits to the local economy, as campaigns spend ad dollars, hire local teams, deploy ground efforts that eat in local restaurants, etc. In the past, the parties have essentially prevented those states' election date moves. That stance could change.
- code4tee 7y ago
  While states set the dates themselves they generally only do so with consent of the parties. In the past the Democratic Party has supported Iowa in going first. After yesterday’s fiasco that stance will likely change.
  - rtkwe 7y ago
    People have been talking about it for a while. Iowa is really really white [0] so people have been saying for a long time that maybe the first state (or group of states) should be more representative of the country as a whole. [0] 90.7% white to be precise where the rest of the US is 76.5% https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IA https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IA https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/US https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/US
JaceLightning 7y ago
Is the app just for Iowa, or for all the caucuses?
- rwbhn 7y ago
  Most states don't even have caucuses, just more traditional primaries. I'm pretty confident this app is quite specific to the (democratic - republican process is different) caucuses in Iowa.
  - redbeard0x0a 7y ago
    and Nevada (they paid for the app and services along with iowa and pete's campaign)
Miner49er 7y ago
Iowa has a law that it holds its primaries 8 days before the first state. Not sure how you can change that without having them change that law.
- NopeNotToday 7y ago
  This is a state law, not federal. Iowa state law has no standing over other states. If the DNC decides Nevada would be first, what options does Iowa have? Iowa cannot enforce that law outside of Iowa.
  - krn 7y ago
    > If the DNC decides Nevada would be first, what options does Iowa have? As I understand, it's up to each state to select the date.
    - dragonwriter 7y ago
      It's up to each party to set the rules on how delegates can be selected, including time, place, and manner. Within certain bounds they have historically not gotten into the weeds too much on timing, but they certainly could.
      - krn 7y ago
        > It's up to each party to set the rules on how delegates can be selected, including time, place, and manner. It seems that Iowa chose both, the time and the manner, itself[1]: > Because Iowa had a complex process of precinct caucuses, county conventions, district conventions, and a state convention, they chose to start early. In 1972, Iowa was the first state to hold its Democratic caucus, and it had the first Republican caucus four years later. > Under Iowa law, political parties are required to hold caucuses every two years to select delegates to county conventions and party committees. And each party must respect the laws of the state. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Iowa will probably be fired from their first in the nation status on voting. More likely that they'll be forced to abandon caucuses.

The only thing clear about the results at this point is that Iowa will probably be fired from their first in the nation status on voting. If there was ever a use for the phrase “You had one job!”

Hamuko 7y ago

How will that even work?

Lavery 7y ago
Other states have tried to go before Iowa in the past--being the first state to vote has significant benefits to the local economy, as campaigns spend ad dollars, hire local teams, deploy ground efforts that eat in local restaurants, etc. In the past, the parties have essentially prevented those states' election date moves. That stance could change.
code4tee 7y ago
While states set the dates themselves they generally only do so with consent of the parties. In the past the Democratic Party has supported Iowa in going first. After yesterday’s fiasco that stance will likely change.
- rtkwe 7y ago
  People have been talking about it for a while. Iowa is really really white [0] so people have been saying for a long time that maybe the first state (or group of states) should be more representative of the country as a whole. [0] 90.7% white to be precise where the rest of the US is 76.5% https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IA https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IA https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/US https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/US

JaceLightning 7y ago

Is the app just for Iowa, or for all the caucuses?

rwbhn 7y ago
Most states don't even have caucuses, just more traditional primaries. I'm pretty confident this app is quite specific to the (democratic - republican process is different) caucuses in Iowa.
- redbeard0x0a 7y ago
  and Nevada (they paid for the app and services along with iowa and pete's campaign)

Miner49er 7y ago

Iowa has a law that it holds its primaries 8 days before the first state. Not sure how you can change that without having them change that law.

NopeNotToday 7y ago
This is a state law, not federal. Iowa state law has no standing over other states. If the DNC decides Nevada would be first, what options does Iowa have? Iowa cannot enforce that law outside of Iowa.
- krn 7y ago
  > If the DNC decides Nevada would be first, what options does Iowa have? As I understand, it's up to each state to select the date.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    It's up to each party to set the rules on how delegates can be selected, including time, place, and manner. Within certain bounds they have historically not gotten into the weeds too much on timing, but they certainly could.
    - krn 7y ago
      > It's up to each party to set the rules on how delegates can be selected, including time, place, and manner. It seems that Iowa chose both, the time and the manner, itself[1]: > Because Iowa had a complex process of precinct caucuses, county conventions, district conventions, and a state convention, they chose to start early. In 1972, Iowa was the first state to hold its Democratic caucus, and it had the first Republican caucus four years later. > Under Iowa law, political parties are required to hold caucuses every two years to select delegates to county conventions and party committees. And each party must respect the laws of the state. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

dragonwriter 7y ago

> Iowa will probably be fired from their first in the nation status on voting. More likely that they'll be forced to abandon caucuses.