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Hugged to death. “If you were using federated Kuberenetes with node auto-scaling and the latest cloud-native AI-enabled service discovery OSS tools for geograp

Hugged to death. “If you were using federated Kuberenetes with node auto-scaling and the latest cloud-native AI-enabled service discovery OSS tools for geographically aware traffic distribution your static site wouldn’t have gone down.”

wbl 7y ago
What's the total traffic our hug brings?
- SmooL 7y ago
  Yeah my bad; my site is mostly just for my personal use and I didn't really optimize for views lol. I'm seeing about 200 views/minute.
  - crooked-v 7y ago
    You may want to look at sticking it behind Cloudflare, since their basic CDN service is free.
    - rovr138 7y ago
      Just exporting it to static HTML would work or some some of cache. Maybe varnish or even a reverse proxy with caching.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        If he exported to static html, he could just put the static contents on S3 and configure the bucket to be accessible via https.
    - ldoughty 7y ago
      Or CloudFront. He's on AWS, and it's nearly free (<.05 cents for most personal websites)
  - aj7 7y ago
    Indeed can’t read. Getting 500 Server error.
- ibudiallo 7y ago
  I wrote an article here, and the traffic I got was 1.3 million web requests. All I did was use memcache, and have all my static assets served with nginx. Just like the article implies, if it requires any tweaking and configuration, most people won't/can't do it.
numpad0 7y ago
Let’s call that LaForge engineering(or Spock if you’re TOS person)
- schappim 7y ago
  Why Spock and not Scotty? (genuinely wondering)
  - numpad0 7y ago
    Scotty or even McCoy might be a better fit, but having seen not enough TOS, my impression is Spock is enough prominent in out-technobabbling his captain in this context
Aperocky 7y ago
I wonder how a personal website can’t be made to handle HN traffic? Is there are some kind of excessive back end that cause stuff like this?
- macNchz 7y ago
  I think the most prototypical "hugged to death" personal website is a stock wordpress setup on shared hosting or a low spec vm, without any caching plugins, and perhaps with some popular plugins that happen to be database heavy. It's easy to click a few buttons, install some plugins and themes, and wind up running 100+ sql queries on every page load. The various caching plugins work very well, but it's not necessarily something everyone thinks of turning on in advance of getting a lot of traffic all at once. Can't say if that's what happened here, but it's super common when personal sites linked here go down.
  - Aperocky 7y ago
    Ah thanks. This make sense now. I had mine entirely frontend and even had a decent sized js game on it but never had any trouble posting. Likely because I never needed to deal with sql, (or low traffic)
- tomschlick 7y ago
  People don't take advantage of caching headers. Put cloudflare in front of your blog with 10 minute caching headers and that isnt going down for almost anything.
  - tyingq 7y ago
    They don't even need Cloudflare. Just a typical cache plugin would allow a WordPress/Django/Rails/whatever site to survive HN. Every page request being 90 database calls to satisfy "related posts", "wordclouds", "previous", "next", "related" and whatnot just doesn't scale :) Yey abstraction.
- istjohn 7y ago
  You can read about his tech stack here[1]. Curiously, his "About" page loads fine. He is using a Django REST API with DynamoDB and the "whole site is hosted serverlessly on AWS Lambda." 1. lucassimpson.com/about/
tudorw 7y ago
Or if you'd just posted it on Usenet, oh wait
ikurei 7y ago
Web Archive has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20200201105504/https://lucassimpson.com/blog/2020-01-23/my-second-phone-is-in-the-cloud/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200201105504/https://lucassimp...
notyourday 7y ago
> Hugged to death. It's a static site FFS! Erols and ServInt were serving 3k requests per second on a Pentium in the nineties using Apache and SCSI disks with no acceleration, no http cache, no memcache because that 2KB page fits into OS disk cache!
- heavenlyblue 7y ago
  Everything fits into OS disk cache as long as there’s enough free RAM.
ernsheong 7y ago
Can't resist: He turned off his second phone ;)

wbl 7y ago

What's the total traffic our hug brings?

SmooL 7y ago
Yeah my bad; my site is mostly just for my personal use and I didn't really optimize for views lol. I'm seeing about 200 views/minute.
- crooked-v 7y ago
  You may want to look at sticking it behind Cloudflare, since their basic CDN service is free.
  - rovr138 7y ago
    Just exporting it to static HTML would work or some some of cache. Maybe varnish or even a reverse proxy with caching.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      If he exported to static html, he could just put the static contents on S3 and configure the bucket to be accessible via https.
  - ldoughty 7y ago
    Or CloudFront. He's on AWS, and it's nearly free (<.05 cents for most personal websites)
- aj7 7y ago
  Indeed can’t read. Getting 500 Server error.
ibudiallo 7y ago
I wrote an article here, and the traffic I got was 1.3 million web requests. All I did was use memcache, and have all my static assets served with nginx. Just like the article implies, if it requires any tweaking and configuration, most people won't/can't do it.

numpad0 7y ago

Let’s call that LaForge engineering(or Spock if you’re TOS person)

schappim 7y ago
Why Spock and not Scotty? (genuinely wondering)
- numpad0 7y ago
  Scotty or even McCoy might be a better fit, but having seen not enough TOS, my impression is Spock is enough prominent in out-technobabbling his captain in this context

Aperocky 7y ago

I wonder how a personal website can’t be made to handle HN traffic? Is there are some kind of excessive back end that cause stuff like this?

macNchz 7y ago
I think the most prototypical "hugged to death" personal website is a stock wordpress setup on shared hosting or a low spec vm, without any caching plugins, and perhaps with some popular plugins that happen to be database heavy. It's easy to click a few buttons, install some plugins and themes, and wind up running 100+ sql queries on every page load. The various caching plugins work very well, but it's not necessarily something everyone thinks of turning on in advance of getting a lot of traffic all at once. Can't say if that's what happened here, but it's super common when personal sites linked here go down.
- Aperocky 7y ago
  Ah thanks. This make sense now. I had mine entirely frontend and even had a decent sized js game on it but never had any trouble posting. Likely because I never needed to deal with sql, (or low traffic)
tomschlick 7y ago
People don't take advantage of caching headers. Put cloudflare in front of your blog with 10 minute caching headers and that isnt going down for almost anything.
- tyingq 7y ago
  They don't even need Cloudflare. Just a typical cache plugin would allow a WordPress/Django/Rails/whatever site to survive HN. Every page request being 90 database calls to satisfy "related posts", "wordclouds", "previous", "next", "related" and whatnot just doesn't scale :) Yey abstraction.
istjohn 7y ago
You can read about his tech stack here[1]. Curiously, his "About" page loads fine. He is using a Django REST API with DynamoDB and the "whole site is hosted serverlessly on AWS Lambda." 1. lucassimpson.com/about/

tudorw 7y ago

Or if you'd just posted it on Usenet, oh wait

ikurei 7y ago

Web Archive has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20200201105504/https://lucassimpson.com/blog/2020-01-23/my-second-phone-is-in-the-cloud/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200201105504/https://lucassimp...

notyourday 7y ago

> Hugged to death. It's a static site FFS! Erols and ServInt were serving 3k requests per second on a Pentium in the nineties using Apache and SCSI disks with no acceleration, no http cache, no memcache because that 2KB page fits into OS disk cache!

heavenlyblue 7y ago
Everything fits into OS disk cache as long as there’s enough free RAM.

ernsheong 7y ago

Can't resist: He turned off his second phone ;)