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Ok, you took a gamble, to illegally go into a place that ostensively doesn't want you. The gamble didn't pay off, tough luck. What the USA is doing is inhumane

Ok, you took a gamble, to illegally go into a place that ostensively doesn't want you. The gamble didn't pay off, tough luck. What the USA is doing is inhumane (news at 11) but I have very little sympathy for people who put their children at risk like that. I'd turn into a criminal before putting my children at risk like that. Maybe this makes me a worse person. It certainly makes me a person whose children are not in involuntary semi-permanent detention.

ben_w 7y ago
It would make you someone whose children are dead or enslaved. At least, that’s the fear of those who are fleeing. I wouldn’t know how accurate their beliefs are.
bryanrasmussen 7y ago
Genocidal maniacs: We're going to ethnically cleanse you and your family! Victim of Genocidal Maniacs: Hah, I'll become a criminal that will protect me! Genocidal Maniacs: ? That confuse the heck out of them tactic never fails.
- wholepointofcc 7y ago
  Just walk south. Don't walk north. Walk south. It's that simple. Mexico is a civilized democracy with public safety problems, you people talking as if it was North Korea...
  - pessimizer 7y ago
    Immigrants applying for refuge at the southern border are generally coming through Mexico, not from it. Mexicans are (not quite as) xenophobic towards them, too.
- wholepointofcc 7y ago
  > ethnically cleanse ? Who's talking about ethnic cleansing? We're talking about violence cause as a consequence of the USA's drug policy + CIA interference. The levels of misconception in this thread are remarkable
  - bryanrasmussen 7y ago
    There is an ongoing history of ethnic cleansing of Mayan and other populations for example, https://caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/ixil-maya-guatemala-ethnic-cleansing https://caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/ixil-maya-guatemala-e... - of course it is true that some of the ethnic cleansing history in South America is tightly related to U.S drug policy and CIA interference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide Yes, I agree, the levels of misconception really are remarkable. on edit - should have said Central America instead of South America.
hobolobo 7y ago
Such an ugly response. Their situation is that their children are already at risk. I don't think you grasp the severity of the situation in Mexico. Perhaps you should go strut your tough stuff over the border. The state dept advise against it due to the high levels of violence and kidnapping. That wouldn't matter to a would-be criminal though.

ben_w 7y ago

It would make you someone whose children are dead or enslaved. At least, that’s the fear of those who are fleeing. I wouldn’t know how accurate their beliefs are.

bryanrasmussen 7y ago

Genocidal maniacs: We're going to ethnically cleanse you and your family! Victim of Genocidal Maniacs: Hah, I'll become a criminal that will protect me! Genocidal Maniacs: ? That confuse the heck out of them tactic never fails.

wholepointofcc 7y ago
Just walk south. Don't walk north. Walk south. It's that simple. Mexico is a civilized democracy with public safety problems, you people talking as if it was North Korea...
- pessimizer 7y ago
  Immigrants applying for refuge at the southern border are generally coming through Mexico, not from it. Mexicans are (not quite as) xenophobic towards them, too.
wholepointofcc 7y ago
> ethnically cleanse ? Who's talking about ethnic cleansing? We're talking about violence cause as a consequence of the USA's drug policy + CIA interference. The levels of misconception in this thread are remarkable
- bryanrasmussen 7y ago
  There is an ongoing history of ethnic cleansing of Mayan and other populations for example, https://caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/ixil-maya-guatemala-ethnic-cleansing https://caravanmagazine.in/photo-essay/ixil-maya-guatemala-e... - of course it is true that some of the ethnic cleansing history in South America is tightly related to U.S drug policy and CIA interference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide Yes, I agree, the levels of misconception really are remarkable. on edit - should have said Central America instead of South America.

hobolobo 7y ago

Such an ugly response. Their situation is that their children are already at risk. I don't think you grasp the severity of the situation in Mexico. Perhaps you should go strut your tough stuff over the border. The state dept advise against it due to the high levels of violence and kidnapping. That wouldn't matter to a would-be criminal though.