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Is anyone able to explain how they have jumped from this "Andrei Kozlov was gunned down in 2006, weeks after trying to shutter the world’s biggest money-launde

by alexro 7y ago

Is anyone able to explain how they have jumped from this "Andrei Kozlov was gunned down in 2006, weeks after trying to shutter the world’s biggest money-laundering scam" to this "—one reportedly used by Putin’s family and the FSB." ?

krn 7y ago
https://www.occrp.org/en/laundromat/the-russian-laundromat-exposed/ https://www.occrp.org/en/laundromat/the-russian-laundromat-e...
- alexro 7y ago
  Your source is jumping big between the facts too
  - krn 7y ago
    The last paragraph: > FSB representatives served on the board of at least one of banks that wired billions out of Russia as did Igor Putin, Putin’s cousin. He was a manager and executive board member in the Russian Land Bank. This bank wired more than $9.7 billion to Moldindconbank in Moldova, most of which went on to Trasta Komercbanka and from there on to the world.
    - alexro 7y ago
      So, how this is considered to be corruption if money are moved to somewhere? Isn't it what every government is doing, including various US funds helping all kinds of crooks abroad?
      - krn 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering > Money laundering is the illegal process of concealing the origins of money obtained illegally by passing it through a complex sequence of banking transfers or commercial transactions. The overall scheme of this process returns the money to the launderer in an obscure and indirect way.
        alexro 7y ago
        How this proves that the money 1) has been moved 'illegally' (which authority is responsible) 2) linked to Putin's family personally 3) linked to the 'uncovered' scheme This is what I call jumping between the facts
        keymone 7y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIsXKdjZdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIsXKdjZdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAdZigHlhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAdZigHlhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYQbgvzxdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYQbgvzxdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwlk7_GF9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwlk7_GF9g there's plenty more if you want to know how these crooks use shady schemes to steal from russian citizens and move it semi-legally out of russia to have nice places to retire to of course if the only evidence you will accept is putin himself bringing you incriminating documents with his signatures - i got nothing to offer.

by alexro 7y ago

krn 7y ago

https://www.occrp.org/en/laundromat/the-russian-laundromat-exposed/ https://www.occrp.org/en/laundromat/the-russian-laundromat-e...

alexro 7y ago
Your source is jumping big between the facts too
- krn 7y ago
  The last paragraph: > FSB representatives served on the board of at least one of banks that wired billions out of Russia as did Igor Putin, Putin’s cousin. He was a manager and executive board member in the Russian Land Bank. This bank wired more than $9.7 billion to Moldindconbank in Moldova, most of which went on to Trasta Komercbanka and from there on to the world.
  - alexro 7y ago
    So, how this is considered to be corruption if money are moved to somewhere? Isn't it what every government is doing, including various US funds helping all kinds of crooks abroad?
    - krn 7y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering > Money laundering is the illegal process of concealing the origins of money obtained illegally by passing it through a complex sequence of banking transfers or commercial transactions. The overall scheme of this process returns the money to the launderer in an obscure and indirect way.
      - alexro 7y ago
        How this proves that the money 1) has been moved 'illegally' (which authority is responsible) 2) linked to Putin's family personally 3) linked to the 'uncovered' scheme This is what I call jumping between the facts
        keymone 7y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIsXKdjZdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIsXKdjZdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAdZigHlhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAdZigHlhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYQbgvzxdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYQbgvzxdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwlk7_GF9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwlk7_GF9g there's plenty more if you want to know how these crooks use shady schemes to steal from russian citizens and move it semi-legally out of russia to have nice places to retire to of course if the only evidence you will accept is putin himself bringing you incriminating documents with his signatures - i got nothing to offer.