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@YC Leadership: The Chinese Article [1] reads synonymously to: YC China was RENAMED, not aborted. That's highly different from your English statement. LOL: even

@YC Leadership: The Chinese Article [1] reads synonymously to: YC China was RENAMED, not aborted. That's highly different from your English statement. LOL: even the website ycchina.com redirects to MiraclePlus. http://www.ycchina.com/ http://www.ycchina.com/ They even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. Be careful to read their whole website. This whole website of MiracleMinus is extremely dishonest. I would be very careful not to be connected too much to dishonest and lack-of-integrity people like Qi. [1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SnSsli_ZGo0yI58YD-ddaw https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SnSsli_ZGo0yI58YD-ddaw

bigpumpkin 7y ago
"they even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. " YC的创业方法论培养了大量例如Airbnb，Stripe, Dropbox等的明星企业。经过了14年的实战考验，充分证明了其有效性。在中国，我们将YC创业方法论落实到本地企业中，用来服务我们的初创公司。 " YC's entrepreneurial methodology has produced a number of star companies such as Airbnb, Stripe, Dropbox and more. After 14 years of practical tests, it has fully proved its effectiveness. In China, we implement the YC entrepreneurial methodology into local companies to serve our startups."
- paganel 7y ago
  That's pretty disappointing, so they're still actively using the YC name and the YC brand, I recon with YC's approval. I had hoped that after recent Hong Kong videos like this one [1] (not to mention the whole Uighur near-tragedy) any sane company which cherishes some sort of values would have gotten out of China as soon as possible. It seems that in this particular case YC is chasing the local maximum of getting money in the short-run, forgetting about the long-term consequences of what the Chinese government is now doing. [1] https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3819595 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3819595
  - mac01021 7y ago
    Companies don't cherish values unless their customers do. And most people don't know/understand/care what's going on in HK or Xinjiang.
    - cameronbrown 7y ago
      Blizzard fans would disagree. A small amount of voices has lead to massive awareness in that community.
      - icu 7y ago
        Also the Blizzard fanbase has put pressure on the company to uphold its own stated principles, which quite frankly Blizzard didn't, and arguably still hasn't upheld. I'd be surprised if less than 80% of Blizzard's fan base isn't aware of the "Free HK" controversy and doesn't support the notion of freedom in HK to some degree.
        thaumasiotes 7y ago
        > I'd be surprised if less than 80% of Blizzard's fan base isn't aware of the "Free HK" controversy and doesn't support the notion of freedom in HK to some degree. I assume you mean 80% of Blizzard's US fan base?
        AlexanderNull 7y ago
        They took a hit in EU for it as well. You probably were referring to their sino-servers but they do get a hint of what we see over there. Before Blitzchung they were already facing some PR problems for their bans within OW and WoW for anyone who happened to type anything related to winnie the pooh in chat.
geoff 7y ago
These are just leftovers from the first batch Qi ran, which was under the YC name. We're still in the middle of the transition. As we noted, Qi is taking over and will run under the MiraclePlus brand. We'll both make that clear on our websites. Other than that first batch, there is no commercial relationship between YC and MiraclePlus. Your personal comments don't match my experience at all. I have known Qi for many years and have always found him to be extremely high integrity and trustworthy.

bigpumpkin 7y ago

"they even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. " YC的创业方法论培养了大量例如Airbnb，Stripe, Dropbox等的明星企业。经过了14年的实战考验，充分证明了其有效性。在中国，我们将YC创业方法论落实到本地企业中，用来服务我们的初创公司。 " YC's entrepreneurial methodology has produced a number of star companies such as Airbnb, Stripe, Dropbox and more. After 14 years of practical tests, it has fully proved its effectiveness. In China, we implement the YC entrepreneurial methodology into local companies to serve our startups."

paganel 7y ago
That's pretty disappointing, so they're still actively using the YC name and the YC brand, I recon with YC's approval. I had hoped that after recent Hong Kong videos like this one [1] (not to mention the whole Uighur near-tragedy) any sane company which cherishes some sort of values would have gotten out of China as soon as possible. It seems that in this particular case YC is chasing the local maximum of getting money in the short-run, forgetting about the long-term consequences of what the Chinese government is now doing. [1] https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3819595 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3819595
- mac01021 7y ago
  Companies don't cherish values unless their customers do. And most people don't know/understand/care what's going on in HK or Xinjiang.
  - cameronbrown 7y ago
    Blizzard fans would disagree. A small amount of voices has lead to massive awareness in that community.
    - icu 7y ago
      Also the Blizzard fanbase has put pressure on the company to uphold its own stated principles, which quite frankly Blizzard didn't, and arguably still hasn't upheld. I'd be surprised if less than 80% of Blizzard's fan base isn't aware of the "Free HK" controversy and doesn't support the notion of freedom in HK to some degree.
      - thaumasiotes 7y ago
        > I'd be surprised if less than 80% of Blizzard's fan base isn't aware of the "Free HK" controversy and doesn't support the notion of freedom in HK to some degree. I assume you mean 80% of Blizzard's US fan base?
        AlexanderNull 7y ago
        They took a hit in EU for it as well. You probably were referring to their sino-servers but they do get a hint of what we see over there. Before Blitzchung they were already facing some PR problems for their bans within OW and WoW for anyone who happened to type anything related to winnie the pooh in chat.

geoff 7y ago

These are just leftovers from the first batch Qi ran, which was under the YC name. We're still in the middle of the transition. As we noted, Qi is taking over and will run under the MiraclePlus brand. We'll both make that clear on our websites. Other than that first batch, there is no commercial relationship between YC and MiraclePlus. Your personal comments don't match my experience at all. I have known Qi for many years and have always found him to be extremely high integrity and trustworthy.