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I don't know. They've added a ton of underwater content, new structures, mobs (bees, foxes, llamas, phantoms, drowns, etc), sunken ships and treasure maps. If

I don't know. They've added a ton of underwater content, new structures, mobs (bees, foxes, llamas, phantoms, drowns, etc), sunken ships and treasure maps. If anything, they've had a better release cycle since the acquisition.

willis936 7y ago
What the game really needs is what was promised ages ago: a mod API on the C++ edition.
- xen2xen1 7y ago
  Minecraft is for selling Xbox's and Windows 10. If they wanted modding they would have modding.
  - willis936 7y ago
    It’s more a matter of doing what they promised, which is also a highly requested thing. There’s a middle manager somewhere who is being told they need to never officially support modding so they can continue to sell valueless items to children. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/64vrom/psa_c_edition_mcpe_is_getting_a_modlike_plugin https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/64vrom/psa_c_edi...
    - Hawxy 7y ago
      You're a bit behind. That API has been out for almost a year now: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-public-beta https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-pu... https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_beta_scripting_documentation https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_beta_scripti...
      - willis936 7y ago
        You’re right I hadn’t seen this. It’s pretty fresh and I’ve been off minecraft for a few years. It’s neat, but even by previous FAQ response standards it’s horribly weak. It appears like little more than an ability to make scripts of existing vanilla commands. You can’t make/register blocks, fluids, modify terrain gen, or even trigger individual events. As a framework it isn’t useful for content creators.
- baroffoos 7y ago
  And a linux version of the C++ version.
  - strictfp 7y ago
    Bedrock sever is available for Linux. No client yet, although there is a hacky launcher which runs the android binary on Linux and works alright.
- HeadsUpHigh 7y ago
  Yea let's actually make the C++ edition playable first. Have you noticed how the cursor acceleration is actually like a joystick? I play on a computer for a reason, I don't want console nonsense creeping on me. Same goes for the whole UI. Also no linux version.
  - willis936 7y ago
    When it takes 30 minutes to load your mod pack and even with a RAM disk and a healthy number of fast cores on a dedicated server you're still dipping below 20 fps on some occasions, it's time for a leaner edition than java. I'm not even saying java is inherently the problem, but the java edition of minecraft is not performant and the bedrock edition is.
    - PeterStuer 7y ago
      As I remember from setting up a server way, way back is you want to give that JVM as much memory as you can trow at it.
      - hoseja 7y ago
        Better hope you pick the right arcane garbage collection strategy!
        satanspastaroll 7y ago
        Latency minimal GC is the right choice for game servers. The most available one is G1, though others like Shenandoah and ZGC are on the way
        willis936 7y ago
        I played with a few of them. A server I used to run had a leaky mod that would, when a base was large, leak so much that the GC would hit twice a minute with a 5 second stall. It didn’t matter what GC was used. I never found a solution.
- WilliamEdward 7y ago
  You don't get it, most people don't want to mod with c++. Java is more popular, runs everywhere quite easily, and isn't as hard to understand. Imagine an 12 year old trying to mod with this language, they'd be spending more time figuring out how it works than coding a mod.
- strictfp 7y ago
  Scripting for Bedrock is in beta!
LoSboccacc 7y ago
the new structures and content that reward exploration are great! the new mobs, not so much. they don't have a purpose in game that wasn't fulfilled already, and while I appreciate the diversity they give not something new to do, just more of the same. what'd be interesting are additions that open up new things to do, like that parcour level demo that show off the new wax block, but tbh wax and bees scale seems off compared with the rest of the game. they really don't seem to want to explore too much. so what if they added a block that allowed automating things? what would be having a sky dimension accessible with the elyra wings? that would give new purpose to existing content without altering the game too much. what if furnaces and other production structures added taint to the biome, making it more and more polluted and unfriendly to live in? so many possibilities! luckily there's plenty mods out there, but a well balanced execution would make it so much better.
- afiori 7y ago
  > what would be having a sky dimension accessible with the elytra wings? This is something that definitely needs to be added at some point. One problem I would see is that there is already a very good mod that does that. In a sense they are between a rock and an hard place in trying to both copy and not copy it.

willis936 7y ago

What the game really needs is what was promised ages ago: a mod API on the C++ edition.

xen2xen1 7y ago
Minecraft is for selling Xbox's and Windows 10. If they wanted modding they would have modding.
- willis936 7y ago
  It’s more a matter of doing what they promised, which is also a highly requested thing. There’s a middle manager somewhere who is being told they need to never officially support modding so they can continue to sell valueless items to children. https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/64vrom/psa_c_edition_mcpe_is_getting_a_modlike_plugin https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/64vrom/psa_c_edi...
  - Hawxy 7y ago
    You're a bit behind. That API has been out for almost a year now: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-public-beta https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/scripting-api-now-pu... https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_beta_scripting_documentation https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_beta_scripti...
    - willis936 7y ago
      You’re right I hadn’t seen this. It’s pretty fresh and I’ve been off minecraft for a few years. It’s neat, but even by previous FAQ response standards it’s horribly weak. It appears like little more than an ability to make scripts of existing vanilla commands. You can’t make/register blocks, fluids, modify terrain gen, or even trigger individual events. As a framework it isn’t useful for content creators.
baroffoos 7y ago
And a linux version of the C++ version.
- strictfp 7y ago
  Bedrock sever is available for Linux. No client yet, although there is a hacky launcher which runs the android binary on Linux and works alright.
HeadsUpHigh 7y ago
Yea let's actually make the C++ edition playable first. Have you noticed how the cursor acceleration is actually like a joystick? I play on a computer for a reason, I don't want console nonsense creeping on me. Same goes for the whole UI. Also no linux version.
- willis936 7y ago
  When it takes 30 minutes to load your mod pack and even with a RAM disk and a healthy number of fast cores on a dedicated server you're still dipping below 20 fps on some occasions, it's time for a leaner edition than java. I'm not even saying java is inherently the problem, but the java edition of minecraft is not performant and the bedrock edition is.
  - PeterStuer 7y ago
    As I remember from setting up a server way, way back is you want to give that JVM as much memory as you can trow at it.
    - hoseja 7y ago
      Better hope you pick the right arcane garbage collection strategy!
      - satanspastaroll 7y ago
        Latency minimal GC is the right choice for game servers. The most available one is G1, though others like Shenandoah and ZGC are on the way
        willis936 7y ago
        I played with a few of them. A server I used to run had a leaky mod that would, when a base was large, leak so much that the GC would hit twice a minute with a 5 second stall. It didn’t matter what GC was used. I never found a solution.
WilliamEdward 7y ago
You don't get it, most people don't want to mod with c++. Java is more popular, runs everywhere quite easily, and isn't as hard to understand. Imagine an 12 year old trying to mod with this language, they'd be spending more time figuring out how it works than coding a mod.
strictfp 7y ago
Scripting for Bedrock is in beta!

LoSboccacc 7y ago

the new structures and content that reward exploration are great! the new mobs, not so much. they don't have a purpose in game that wasn't fulfilled already, and while I appreciate the diversity they give not something new to do, just more of the same. what'd be interesting are additions that open up new things to do, like that parcour level demo that show off the new wax block, but tbh wax and bees scale seems off compared with the rest of the game. they really don't seem to want to explore too much. so what if they added a block that allowed automating things? what would be having a sky dimension accessible with the elyra wings? that would give new purpose to existing content without altering the game too much. what if furnaces and other production structures added taint to the biome, making it more and more polluted and unfriendly to live in? so many possibilities! luckily there's plenty mods out there, but a well balanced execution would make it so much better.

afiori 7y ago
> what would be having a sky dimension accessible with the elytra wings? This is something that definitely needs to be added at some point. One problem I would see is that there is already a very good mod that does that. In a sense they are between a rock and an hard place in trying to both copy and not copy it.