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I'm 27, never had a "proper" 9-5 type of job, and I've always wondered how do people with these types of jobs do things like taking their dog to the vet. In my

I'm 27, never had a "proper" 9-5 type of job, and I've always wondered how do people with these types of jobs do things like taking their dog to the vet. In my country if you ask for time off to take your dog to the vet you'll definitely get weird looks. So how do they do it? Just lie and say you need to go to the bank? Just let their dog in pain?

tw1010 7y ago
What have you been doing if you haven't had a 9-5 job?
- whytaka 7y ago
  Since getting my degree and entering the actual workforce (rather than summer employment and the like) I have always had a flexible schedule. I pretty much won't work for a company that would withhold that from me.
phil248 7y ago
It varies dramatically. Some people have to endure scorn from their managers and lose pay in order to handle important tasks in their lives. They may end up losing their jobs. Other people come and go as they please, just leaving a polite note for their coworkers about when they'll be back (or not). It's all dependent on the employer and manager and, in some cases, state laws. What I find confusing is how you imply that "going to the bank" is an OK reason to leave work, but taking a sick pet to the vet is weird? What country do you work in?
wil421 7y ago
I’ve never had to take time off for the Vet or doctors appointments. Including a lot of doctors appointments when my wife was pregnant. I ask my boss and he says ok I hope your dog is feeling better. 8-5 Megacorp job.
cardiffspaceman 7y ago
Your bank has the power to stay in business with only 10am-3pm hours, your dog has the "power" to bear the pain until you get up the nerve to lie and say you're going to the bank. I've heard that in the advanced nation of Germany lots of useful businesses aren't open when ordinary workers have time to go visit them, such as banks and electronics stores and grocery stores. If you work an extra hour for some reason you can't pick up food except at a stall in the train station?
- treden 7y ago
  As a "late" chronotype living in Germany (Bavaria specifically - different states have different laws) I can confirm this. Also, the government makes lots of other decisions on the putative behalf of the individual. There's more involuntary tradeoffs (imho) that don't necessarily work out in your favor. The argument is that it's better for society, but implicitly that means everyone has to subscribe to the same narrowly defined concept of society.
thfuran 7y ago
I just send an email to my team lead saying "I'll be in late/leaving early today because X".
sportanova 7y ago
(In my experience) in SF for programmers as long as you're there for standard / scheduled meetings you can come and go as you need. But that won't be as true for other locations or jobs that are less in demand
asjw 7y ago
How could people working 9-5 raise a family, including taking the kids at school and to the doctor? It's a well preserved secret, nobody knows how they did it. It is clearly magic or sth like that Spoiler: they do like everybody else's does, they ask for some free time for family. You have the right to it, even in shitty US
IkmoIkmo 7y ago
Depends... at my company (financial/legal services, multinational, quite a corporate environment but... in the EU) nobody would ever make an issue out of taking your dog to the vet. Dentist? No problem. Any medical thing, anything with family... hell, even getting a package delivered early, not a problem. Think once or twice a month, missing 2 hours in the morning or late afternoon. Unless it's structural. Take your kids to school every morning and come in late? That has to be talked through properly. And if you go home early every week because your fashion items are going to be delivered, that's not okay. Other people take vacation hours for this kind of stuff. (we get 25 days a year). Others will work an hour unpaid overtime here and there, and compensate by going home or getting in early at other times. In general it's just not an issue really, you just notify upfront and not be there, and make sure not to do it more than twice or so a month. It really helps that working from home 1 day a week is becoming more of a thing though. You're more flexible that way.

tw1010 7y ago

What have you been doing if you haven't had a 9-5 job?

whytaka 7y ago
Since getting my degree and entering the actual workforce (rather than summer employment and the like) I have always had a flexible schedule. I pretty much won't work for a company that would withhold that from me.

phil248 7y ago

It varies dramatically. Some people have to endure scorn from their managers and lose pay in order to handle important tasks in their lives. They may end up losing their jobs. Other people come and go as they please, just leaving a polite note for their coworkers about when they'll be back (or not). It's all dependent on the employer and manager and, in some cases, state laws. What I find confusing is how you imply that "going to the bank" is an OK reason to leave work, but taking a sick pet to the vet is weird? What country do you work in?

wil421 7y ago

I’ve never had to take time off for the Vet or doctors appointments. Including a lot of doctors appointments when my wife was pregnant. I ask my boss and he says ok I hope your dog is feeling better. 8-5 Megacorp job.

cardiffspaceman 7y ago

Your bank has the power to stay in business with only 10am-3pm hours, your dog has the "power" to bear the pain until you get up the nerve to lie and say you're going to the bank. I've heard that in the advanced nation of Germany lots of useful businesses aren't open when ordinary workers have time to go visit them, such as banks and electronics stores and grocery stores. If you work an extra hour for some reason you can't pick up food except at a stall in the train station?

treden 7y ago
As a "late" chronotype living in Germany (Bavaria specifically - different states have different laws) I can confirm this. Also, the government makes lots of other decisions on the putative behalf of the individual. There's more involuntary tradeoffs (imho) that don't necessarily work out in your favor. The argument is that it's better for society, but implicitly that means everyone has to subscribe to the same narrowly defined concept of society.

thfuran 7y ago

I just send an email to my team lead saying "I'll be in late/leaving early today because X".

sportanova 7y ago

(In my experience) in SF for programmers as long as you're there for standard / scheduled meetings you can come and go as you need. But that won't be as true for other locations or jobs that are less in demand

asjw 7y ago

How could people working 9-5 raise a family, including taking the kids at school and to the doctor? It's a well preserved secret, nobody knows how they did it. It is clearly magic or sth like that Spoiler: they do like everybody else's does, they ask for some free time for family. You have the right to it, even in shitty US

IkmoIkmo 7y ago

Depends... at my company (financial/legal services, multinational, quite a corporate environment but... in the EU) nobody would ever make an issue out of taking your dog to the vet. Dentist? No problem. Any medical thing, anything with family... hell, even getting a package delivered early, not a problem. Think once or twice a month, missing 2 hours in the morning or late afternoon. Unless it's structural. Take your kids to school every morning and come in late? That has to be talked through properly. And if you go home early every week because your fashion items are going to be delivered, that's not okay. Other people take vacation hours for this kind of stuff. (we get 25 days a year). Others will work an hour unpaid overtime here and there, and compensate by going home or getting in early at other times. In general it's just not an issue really, you just notify upfront and not be there, and make sure not to do it more than twice or so a month. It really helps that working from home 1 day a week is becoming more of a thing though. You're more flexible that way.