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11B from 7B is a 60% increase... But that's the usual sterile nitpicking. Do you want to argue about decimal points or address the actual point? The important
by NotPaidToPost 7y ago
11B from 7B is a 60% increase... But that's the usual sterile nitpicking. Do you want to argue about decimal points or address the actual point?
The important point is that this is a large increase when we already cannot manage now.
- Retric 7y ago10.9/7.53 = 1.45, but that 10.9 has high error bars. The U.N. estimation is a 80% chance it’s between 10 and 12 Billion in 80 years. https://population.un.org/wpp/Graphs/Probabilistic/POP/TOT/900 https://population.un.org/wpp/Graphs/Probabilistic/POP/TOT/9... That’s quite a bit of uncertainty to make any real definitive statements beyond continuing growth expected.
- beat 7y agoAs a point of comparison, the global population has almost quadrupled in the previous 80 years. So even in the worst case scenario, population growth is dropping spectacularly.
- Retric 7y agoAbsolutely, the trends seem very obvious. The global population is unlikely to double in the next 100 years. I am mostly simply reacting to people trying to use specific estimates.
- bryanlarsen 7y ago"we already cannot manage now." Correction: we don't want to manage now. The world has far more than enough wealth and resources to hold climate change to 2 degrees and to stop clear cutting rain forests.
- ForHackernews 7y agoPoint of order: 2 degrees of climate change will still be disastrous https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=8433 https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=8433
- ataturk 7y agoBy "wealth and resources" do you mean a full scale invasion of Brazil? That's the level of effort it would to possibly accomplish what you suggest. I think a lot of you are very taken in by "climate science." I remain skeptical. Were it not so tied to political ideology it might be more palatable. But I'm unwilling to give up any more ground to the far left at this point. I don't care how good their argument for this or that is, I'm simply not listening anymore. They will have to come and kill me as I am no longer interested in complying with their administrative state and it's unelected idiots.
- beat 7y agoWe can and do manage now, thank you very much. Poverty is decreasing at an incredible rate around the globe; education is increasing at an incredible rate. We've made the world's knowledge available to virtually everyone via in the internet just in the time I've been an adult. We've eradicated diseases that once killed millions every year. Two thirds of the global extreme poverty (defined by the World Bank as about $1.80/day in current dollars) has been eradicated in just the past two decades. We're doing awesome.
- NotPaidToPost 7y agoI was obviously not writing about poverty but about our impact on the planet and the environment...
- beat 7y agoI expect to see fossil fuel use as a major energy source eradicated within my lifetime. The planet is just fine; it's our own living environment we need to worry about. Earth has survived worse things than mere humans.
- adrianN 7y agoWe also have about ten years of carbon budget left if we want to avoid the worst climate change yet our emission rate is still increasing. Permafrost is already melting much faster than the pessimistic models assumed, so it might already be too late to prevent the release of the absurd amount of carbon locked in the ice.