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Show HN: Squirrel Curve Studio – A simple tool to design spline curves

88 points by antixk 7y ago

Tistron 7y ago
Looks great, but why is it not a web site? Why electron?
- antixk 7y ago
  Thanks! I just wanted to dabble with Electron (and p5.js, being totally new to JS). It gave me the confidence to work on a bit more serious project.
- AlbertoGP 7y ago
  Actually you can just download it, stick the “public/” directory in a web server (or load it in your browser) and have it working without Electron, which I just did as a quick test: https://sentido-labs.com/tmp/Curve-Studio/ https://sentido-labs.com/tmp/Curve-Studio/ Even save/load with “Export JSON” and “Import JSON” seems to work! @antixk: since it works as a website anyway, I’d recommend doing that yourself because it’s much easier to give it a quick look this way.
Rexxar 7y ago
I'm a little jealous : 60Mo software for drawing 1 curve get 35 votes in 2 hours when my "show HN" get 2 upvotes in one day for a full drawing software.
- worldsayshi 7y ago
  Perhaps you should post again? I would expect upvote behaviour to be quite arbitrary sometimes.
  - fheld 7y ago
    true, but also open software it more exciting for some people
  - Rexxar 7y ago
    I will maybe do it in 6 months or one year. I don't want to spam HN.
    - antoineMoPa 7y ago
      I think the right algorithm for something you put a lot of effort in (like I did for Shadergif): 1. Post on HN. 2. If upvotes <= 3: Post the next day. Maybe you did not get the attention you deserved. Try tweaking the landing page a bit. Maybe you can change the title, add more screenshots of your UI on the landing page. 3. Iterate on your product or work on a new one, but don't post a similar thing again for 6 months.
- deleted 7y ago
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- gloflo 7y ago
  Wow, don't be so dismissive out of spite. You even hijacked an unrelated comment for your slander. People don't upvote "60Mo software for drawing 1 curve", they upvote a "simple tool to design spline curves".
- antoineMoPa 7y ago
  I'd try your software if you made a Linux release.
- dang 7y ago
  Email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll send you a repost invite.
sago 7y ago
Well done for releasing something and hitting the top of HN. It looks like a clean UI, but I'm confused what we're seeing. 1. What is W for each point and how is it set? I assume something like 'weight', rather than a third dimension, but neither Bezier nor Catmull-Rom curves have an additional per-vertex parameter [0]. And NURBS are a ratio of two B-splines, but you still have only X, Y & W [1]. 2. In the demo, each of the curves is listed as 'degree 2' (which suggests quadratic to me). Catmull-Rom curves are cubic (and it appears yours are too), so maybe 'degree 2' means cubic. But then the Bezier: they can be any degree, but the example only interpolates its first and last of five points. Even if the control points are hidden, it is clearly neither cubic nor quadratic, unless new control points are being generated somewhere but not shown. 3. NURBS are non-uniform, but here they are locked to fixed sequential integer parameters. With that and the lack of a ratio, is it really just some variant of a b-spline? 4. Given the list of XYW triples, in JSON, and the non-standard math, how do you anticipate a user constructing the curve - would they have to use your code and the way it interprets the W parameter? Oh, and > Motivated by the lack of freely available curve designers seems like an extraordinary claim. --- Edit to add: [0] Did you mean the cardinal curve / canonical spline, rather than Catmull-Rom? That does have a parameter (tension, usually τ rather than W). It's not very common, but that's the best I can think. [1] To be fair, editors often don't expose the ratio, and expose only a knot vector. But the W values given don't seem to correspond with knots either: there is the wrong number for a start, isn't there?
- Jarmsy 7y ago
  Here's an explanation of the weights used in NURBS: https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs3621/NOTES/spline/NURBS/NURBS-def.html https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs3621/NOTES/spline/NUR...
artificial 7y ago
Reticulating splines!
rkagerer 7y ago
Is there a way to bring a photo in and trace it?

88 points by antixk 7y ago

Tistron 7y ago

Looks great, but why is it not a web site? Why electron?

antixk 7y ago
Thanks! I just wanted to dabble with Electron (and p5.js, being totally new to JS). It gave me the confidence to work on a bit more serious project.
AlbertoGP 7y ago
Actually you can just download it, stick the “public/” directory in a web server (or load it in your browser) and have it working without Electron, which I just did as a quick test: https://sentido-labs.com/tmp/Curve-Studio/ https://sentido-labs.com/tmp/Curve-Studio/ Even save/load with “Export JSON” and “Import JSON” seems to work! @antixk: since it works as a website anyway, I’d recommend doing that yourself because it’s much easier to give it a quick look this way.

Rexxar 7y ago

I'm a little jealous : 60Mo software for drawing 1 curve get 35 votes in 2 hours when my "show HN" get 2 upvotes in one day for a full drawing software.

worldsayshi 7y ago
Perhaps you should post again? I would expect upvote behaviour to be quite arbitrary sometimes.
- fheld 7y ago
  true, but also open software it more exciting for some people
- Rexxar 7y ago
  I will maybe do it in 6 months or one year. I don't want to spam HN.
  - antoineMoPa 7y ago
    I think the right algorithm for something you put a lot of effort in (like I did for Shadergif): 1. Post on HN. 2. If upvotes <= 3: Post the next day. Maybe you did not get the attention you deserved. Try tweaking the landing page a bit. Maybe you can change the title, add more screenshots of your UI on the landing page. 3. Iterate on your product or work on a new one, but don't post a similar thing again for 6 months.
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gloflo 7y ago
Wow, don't be so dismissive out of spite. You even hijacked an unrelated comment for your slander. People don't upvote "60Mo software for drawing 1 curve", they upvote a "simple tool to design spline curves".
antoineMoPa 7y ago
I'd try your software if you made a Linux release.
dang 7y ago
Email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll send you a repost invite.

sago 7y ago

Well done for releasing something and hitting the top of HN. It looks like a clean UI, but I'm confused what we're seeing. 1. What is W for each point and how is it set? I assume something like 'weight', rather than a third dimension, but neither Bezier nor Catmull-Rom curves have an additional per-vertex parameter [0]. And NURBS are a ratio of two B-splines, but you still have only X, Y & W [1]. 2. In the demo, each of the curves is listed as 'degree 2' (which suggests quadratic to me). Catmull-Rom curves are cubic (and it appears yours are too), so maybe 'degree 2' means cubic. But then the Bezier: they can be any degree, but the example only interpolates its first and last of five points. Even if the control points are hidden, it is clearly neither cubic nor quadratic, unless new control points are being generated somewhere but not shown. 3. NURBS are non-uniform, but here they are locked to fixed sequential integer parameters. With that and the lack of a ratio, is it really just some variant of a b-spline? 4. Given the list of XYW triples, in JSON, and the non-standard math, how do you anticipate a user constructing the curve - would they have to use your code and the way it interprets the W parameter? Oh, and > Motivated by the lack of freely available curve designers seems like an extraordinary claim. --- Edit to add: [0] Did you mean the cardinal curve / canonical spline, rather than Catmull-Rom? That does have a parameter (tension, usually τ rather than W). It's not very common, but that's the best I can think. [1] To be fair, editors often don't expose the ratio, and expose only a knot vector. But the W values given don't seem to correspond with knots either: there is the wrong number for a start, isn't there?

Jarmsy 7y ago
Here's an explanation of the weights used in NURBS: https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs3621/NOTES/spline/NURBS/NURBS-def.html https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs3621/NOTES/spline/NUR...

artificial 7y ago

Reticulating splines!

rkagerer 7y ago

Is there a way to bring a photo in and trace it?