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This just reminds me of "Make the Leap from Javascript to Coffeescript" Remember where that got us? This stuff is all really cool and fun to work on, but inst

This just reminds me of "Make the Leap from Javascript to Coffeescript" Remember where that got us? This stuff is all really cool and fun to work on, but instead maybe we should focus on changing the JS standard for the better since we always end up working in it anyways! https://js.foundation/ https://js.foundation/

phailhaus 7y ago
Yes, it got us ES6! Languages don't exist in a vacuum. They introduce new ideas, dispense with others, and all languages can learn from what works in the field and what doesn't. If you're working on a personal project, it might be a good idea to try out PureScript and learn from what it has to teach!
- automathematics 7y ago
  Yay new ECMA standards! Classes/decorators/scope/arrow functions have made my life SO MUCH BETTER the last 5 years
ARandomerDude 7y ago
Why not both? CoffeeScript was awesome at the time, and ahead of its time. JavaScript owes many of its new niceties to CoffeeScript. Yes, please, let's advance the state of JS. And let's push the boundaries with other languages that don't have the backwards-compatibility constraints and corporate sluggishness that JavaScript does. Then take the best features and merge them into JS.
- automathematics 7y ago
  Yeah it was awesome! But then years later most projects are wasting engineering time to convert their whole code base which is a bummer! That's all I'm saying.
bcheung 7y ago
The JS community is adopting more and more concepts but a lot of it has to do with the syntax. If the syntax is too verbose people just won't use it. FP is much easier when working with a language based off the lambda calculus (Haskell, Elm, PureScript, etc). Currying, partial application, and point-free composition is overly verbose in JS. JS has adopted the concepts but they are not used very often because of the messy and noisy syntax.

phailhaus 7y ago

Yes, it got us ES6! Languages don't exist in a vacuum. They introduce new ideas, dispense with others, and all languages can learn from what works in the field and what doesn't. If you're working on a personal project, it might be a good idea to try out PureScript and learn from what it has to teach!

automathematics 7y ago
Yay new ECMA standards! Classes/decorators/scope/arrow functions have made my life SO MUCH BETTER the last 5 years

ARandomerDude 7y ago

Why not both? CoffeeScript was awesome at the time, and ahead of its time. JavaScript owes many of its new niceties to CoffeeScript. Yes, please, let's advance the state of JS. And let's push the boundaries with other languages that don't have the backwards-compatibility constraints and corporate sluggishness that JavaScript does. Then take the best features and merge them into JS.

automathematics 7y ago
Yeah it was awesome! But then years later most projects are wasting engineering time to convert their whole code base which is a bummer! That's all I'm saying.

bcheung 7y ago

The JS community is adopting more and more concepts but a lot of it has to do with the syntax. If the syntax is too verbose people just won't use it. FP is much easier when working with a language based off the lambda calculus (Haskell, Elm, PureScript, etc). Currying, partial application, and point-free composition is overly verbose in JS. JS has adopted the concepts but they are not used very often because of the messy and noisy syntax.