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Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?

czr 7y ago
You may be interested in: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Kor... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Legacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Lega... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment#In_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment#In_Japan
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  A little older, but it's worth checking out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%931598) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1... too.
TheOperator 7y ago
Well there was the whole Japan making Korean women into their sex slaves during WWII thing.
- nreilly 7y ago
  With the euphemism 'Comfort Women'.
docdeek 7y ago
Wikipedia has a short page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan–Korea_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan–Korea_relatio...
theaustinseven 7y ago
Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the Japanese Government has mostly denied that any of its war crimes even happened which never allowed tensions to drop as much as they may have in Europe.
- jpatokal 7y ago
  Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements... However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything They elected a far right "fruitcake" to the post of prime minister.
    - T-R 7y ago
      To be fair, they only elected the conservative party, the LDP; the party elected the prime minister. Granted, they've elected the LDP almost continuously since 1955. Of course, they tried electing the other party in 2009, but their leadership kept resigning. Of course, given the LDP's stranglehold on politics, one has to wonder why they feel a need to pander to the nettouyo.
      - cattlefarmer 7y ago
        I stopped paying to attention to politics about 5 years ago and am very surprised to learn that the major opposition party (DPJ?) has essentially fractured into multiple, smaller parties, all using a variation of the same name. At this point, I'm not even sure who to vote for anymore.
  - jonathanyc 7y ago
    The problem is that Japan has a history of doing things like this: > In October 2006, Prime Minister Shinzō Abe's apology was followed on the same day by a group of 80 Japanese lawmakers' visit to the Yasukuni Shrine which enshrines more than 1,000 convicted war criminals.[57] Two years after the apology, Shinzo Abe also denied that the Imperial Japanese military had forced comfort women into sexual slavery during World War II . This is from your link.
smartpants 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
jpatokal 7y ago
Historically, Korea was repeatedly invaded by Japan. More recently, Korea was a Japanese colony between 1910 and 1945, during which the Japanese ruled with an iron fist and did their best to destroy Korean identity by forcing people to take Japanese names etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea...
- edflsafoiewq 7y ago
  Which certainly explains why Korea doesn't like Japan, but why does Japan seem to dislike Korea so much?
  - user982 7y ago
    Xenophobia and belief in Japanese racial superiority: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron#Specific_theses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron#Specific_theses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan#Pre-war_xenophobia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan#Pre-war...
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Maybe because they're not Japanese enough. See https://www.upi.com/TOP_NEWS/WORLD-NEWS/2019/04/17/ANTI-KOREAN-RACISM-ON-THE-RISE-IN-JAPAN-FILMMAKER-SAYS/5661555477281/ https://www.upi.com/TOP_NEWS/WORLD-NEWS/2019/04/17/ANTI-KORE...
  - donpark 7y ago
    Much of it can be blamed on propaganda driven by economic decline and political scapegoating. While Korean music, drama, and movies are popular in Japan, consumers are mostly women. Among small but growing and very vocal population of Japanese men, Korea-bashing books and manga are popular. Later trend is not unrelated to continuing economic decline of Japan. And Japanese politicians are leveraging and fueling that trend to divert the blame.
- duckonomy 7y ago
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max76 7y ago
One small chapter of the history "The Mimizuka ... is a monument in Kyoto, Japan, dedicated to the sliced noses of killed Korean soldiers and civilians as well as Ming Chinese troops taken as war trophies during the Japanese invasions of Korea from 1592 to 1598." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka
devonkim 7y ago
Besides more recent events several hundred years ago Japan also tried to invade Korea under Tokotomo Hideyoshi. Japanese Imperialism has a bit of history to it that makes Koreans uncomfortable given the peninsula has been under constant conquest by its neighbors for at least a thousand years now.

czr 7y ago

You may be interested in: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment_in_Kor... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Legacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Lega... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment#In_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Korean_sentiment#In_Japan

thaumasiotes 7y ago
A little older, but it's worth checking out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1592%E2%80%931598) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasions_of_Korea_(1... too.

TheOperator 7y ago

Well there was the whole Japan making Korean women into their sex slaves during WWII thing.

nreilly 7y ago
With the euphemism 'Comfort Women'.

docdeek 7y ago

Wikipedia has a short page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan–Korea_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan–Korea_relatio...

theaustinseven 7y ago

Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the Japanese Government has mostly denied that any of its war crimes even happened which never allowed tensions to drop as much as they may have in Europe.

jpatokal 7y ago
Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements... However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything They elected a far right "fruitcake" to the post of prime minister.
  - T-R 7y ago
    To be fair, they only elected the conservative party, the LDP; the party elected the prime minister. Granted, they've elected the LDP almost continuously since 1955. Of course, they tried electing the other party in 2009, but their leadership kept resigning. Of course, given the LDP's stranglehold on politics, one has to wonder why they feel a need to pander to the nettouyo.
    - cattlefarmer 7y ago
      I stopped paying to attention to politics about 5 years ago and am very surprised to learn that the major opposition party (DPJ?) has essentially fractured into multiple, smaller parties, all using a variation of the same name. At this point, I'm not even sure who to vote for anymore.
- jonathanyc 7y ago
  The problem is that Japan has a history of doing things like this: > In October 2006, Prime Minister Shinzō Abe's apology was followed on the same day by a group of 80 Japanese lawmakers' visit to the Yasukuni Shrine which enshrines more than 1,000 convicted war criminals.[57] Two years after the apology, Shinzo Abe also denied that the Imperial Japanese military had forced comfort women into sexual slavery during World War II . This is from your link.

smartpants 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

jpatokal 7y ago

Historically, Korea was repeatedly invaded by Japan. More recently, Korea was a Japanese colony between 1910 and 1945, during which the Japanese ruled with an iron fist and did their best to destroy Korean identity by forcing people to take Japanese names etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea...

edflsafoiewq 7y ago
Which certainly explains why Korea doesn't like Japan, but why does Japan seem to dislike Korea so much?
- user982 7y ago
  Xenophobia and belief in Japanese racial superiority: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron#Specific_theses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonjinron#Specific_theses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan#Pre-war_xenophobia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan#Pre-war...
- mirimir 7y ago
  Maybe because they're not Japanese enough. See https://www.upi.com/TOP_NEWS/WORLD-NEWS/2019/04/17/ANTI-KOREAN-RACISM-ON-THE-RISE-IN-JAPAN-FILMMAKER-SAYS/5661555477281/ https://www.upi.com/TOP_NEWS/WORLD-NEWS/2019/04/17/ANTI-KORE...
- donpark 7y ago
  Much of it can be blamed on propaganda driven by economic decline and political scapegoating. While Korean music, drama, and movies are popular in Japan, consumers are mostly women. Among small but growing and very vocal population of Japanese men, Korea-bashing books and manga are popular. Later trend is not unrelated to continuing economic decline of Japan. And Japanese politicians are leveraging and fueling that trend to divert the blame.
duckonomy 7y ago

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max76 7y ago

One small chapter of the history "The Mimizuka ... is a monument in Kyoto, Japan, dedicated to the sliced noses of killed Korean soldiers and civilians as well as Ming Chinese troops taken as war trophies during the Japanese invasions of Korea from 1592 to 1598." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimizuka

devonkim 7y ago

Besides more recent events several hundred years ago Japan also tried to invade Korea under Tokotomo Hideyoshi. Japanese Imperialism has a bit of history to it that makes Koreans uncomfortable given the peninsula has been under constant conquest by its neighbors for at least a thousand years now.