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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 released
- lelf 7y agoIn case someone from RH is reading this: “Get the Study” links to https://www.redhat.com/en/page-not-found https://www.redhat.com/en/page-not-found
- nilskrau 7y agoworking link: https://www.redhat.com/en/engage/economic-impact-rhel-s-201904230659 https://www.redhat.com/en/engage/economic-impact-rhel-s-2019... found by removing the query part
- w-m 7y agoHere are the actual release notes (which don't seem to be linked anywhere from this marketing page): https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html-single/8.0_release_notes/index https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp...
- CiPHPerCoder 7y agoGood news: They ship PHP 7.2 Bad news: ...without ext/sodium That's a frankly irresponsible decision for Red Hat to make.
- beefhash 7y agoIs it perhaps in a separate package, at least?
- CiPHPerCoder 7y agoNo. https://twitter.com/fkooman/status/1125767993764536321 https://twitter.com/fkooman/status/1125767993764536321
- eclipseo76 7y agoIn EPEL probably https://twitter.com/RemiCollet/status/1063323527770750976 https://twitter.com/RemiCollet/status/1063323527770750976
- X-Istence 7y agoThe enterprises I've worked where we've used RHEL... epel is not allowed near a system, only officially sanctioned repos and updates.
- justinclift 7y agoIsn't EPEL the "officially sanctioned" third party repo?
- X-Istence 7y agoNo, it's maintained by a special interest group within Fedora: Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (or EPEL) is a Fedora Special Interest Group that creates, maintains, and manages a high quality set of additional packages for Enterprise Linux, including, but not limited to, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS and Scientific Linux (SL), Oracle Linux (OL). EPEL packages are usually based on their Fedora counterparts and will never conflict with or replace packages in the base Enterprise Linux distributions. EPEL uses much of the same infrastructure as Fedora, including buildsystem, bugzilla instance, updates manager, mirror manager and more.
- justinclift 7y agoAhhh. More "blessed" than "officially sanctioned" then. :)
- wbl 7y agoRed Hat has a long history of harming cryptography.
- Conan_Kudo 7y agoThat's not fair. If you want to blame something for that, blame software patents. Some stuff used to be a huge minefield because of that.
- Conan_Kudo 7y ago> That's a frankly irresponsible decision for Red Hat to make. You say that without knowing anything at all about the situation? If you're a Red Hat customer, you could file a support ticket to get it pulled back in. Historically speaking, Red Hat is rather conservative about the number of crypto libraries they pull into their system because of the requirement to validate the system for certifications. But if there are legitimate requirements to have it included and managed by the base system, then usually they'll work to fix this if they are informed that it's needed. Again, if no one has officially requested it, then why would they pull it in? It can also help to file bugs on RHEL 8 in the Red Hat Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%208 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%...
- CiPHPerCoder 7y ago> If you're a Red Hat customer, you could file a support ticket to get it pulled back in. I have never spent $1 of my own money on Red Hat. After seeing this, I never will.
- Conan_Kudo 7y agoYou could also file a bug report in Red Hat Bugzilla even as a non-customer. But clearly you think that Red Hat is being malicious about this, which is definitely not the case.
- Conan_Kudo 7y agoJust so you know, there's a bug report requesting this extension to be enabled and shipped: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1714591 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1714591
- chomp 7y agoWrote this comment a while ago for anyone wondering about this: Just installed it in a VM, changes that jumped out at me: • No Python (that you should develop against) installed out of the box. There's a /usr/libexec/platform-python (3.6) that yum (dnf) runs against, and then python2/python3 packages you can optionally install if you want to run python scripts. • Kernel 4.18 • No more ntpd, chrony only • /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is a ghost town, save for a lonely ifcfg file for my network adapter. No more /etc/init.d/network, so /etc/init.d is finally cleaned out. It looks like static routes still go in route-<adapter> and you ifdown/ifup to pull those in (it calls nmcli). • Pretty colors when running dmesg!
- sparkling 7y agoIt makes a lot of sense that OS-stuff points to a seperate Python interpreter, don't you think? I like this approach.
- lima 7y agoExactly, and with App Streams you won't be stuck on an old Python version! This is an awesome feature. You already have that on CentOS/RHEL 7 with Software Collections, and App Streams make it a first-class citizen.
- Diederich 7y agoAye; this should have been done a long time ago. I wanted to say 'since the beginning' (whenever that was), but maybe there were good reasons 20 years ago that I can't recall. It probably made sense when disk space was a lot more constrained.
- robbyt 7y agoWith the whole IBM thing going on, I bet CentOS 8 is going to take longer than usual to be released.
- unixhero 7y agoWhat is IBM doing with this?
- abrowne 7y agoThey are buying Red Hat.
- tux1968 7y agoThey acquired RedHat
- dralley 7y agoThe sale is not completed, yet.
- jtr_47 7y agoProbably trying how to install (sneak in and make it hard to remove) the Watson Daemon as a background task for both back end AI and Front end desktop search AI like Cortana, Siri, etc.. LOL Peace
- baijum 7y agoProbably Red Hat Universal Base Image would be good enough for development instead of waiting for CentOS; https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-universal-base-image https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-universal...
- lima 7y agoNice. I'm currently building an operator and this comes in handy. Quick question: how do I differentiate between freely available and subscription-only containers on the Red Hat Registry?
- apaprocki 7y agoOne thing to keep in mind if you build a lot of C++ -- this is the first RHEL version to use the C++11 ABI. Be prepared!
- _Understated_ 7y agoI have no appreciable Linux skills so forgive my naïvety with this question: In the promo vid on their site, there are a couple of people gaming. Is this alluding to the fact that you can game on RHEL or that it powers the backend of games? Just curious...
- aetimmes 7y agoProbably a little bit of both. You can game on RHEL but it wouldn't be my first choice of distro for it - IMO, Ubuntu and Fedora are both better-suited for that task.
- _Understated_ 7y agoWhy is that? Is it driver-related? Or is it that RHEL is more for stability rather than speed?
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- eitland 7y agoRHEL comes with a price tag (although I think they now have free developer licenses.) Also RHEL development moves sloooowly. This is a feature and one of the main reasons to go with RHEL instead of not only unsupported distros but also supported-but-faster-moving distros, kind of like on Windows LTSB (I know to little about both to compare them, but enough to know that in certain organzations the promise that it will stay the way it is and by default only receive security updates is a huge feature.)
- lmns 7y agoThey do have their Software Collections with new major releases for nodejs, python etc., though. It is only the base system that moves slowly.
- burk96 7y ago
- ilovecaching 7y agoWith Shadowman gone and Redhat now a branch of IBM, this RHEL release is really dampened for me.
- Diederich 7y agoCan you expand on that?
- B1FF_PSUVM 7y agoI learned that the logo now is all hat: https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-shadowman-red-hat-changes-its-logo/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-shadowman-red-hat-chan...
- pnutjam 7y agoNever a better time to try OpenSuse and pitch SLES at work.
- justinclift 7y agoOpenSUSE Leap looks interesting. They have a KDE option too, unlike RHEL 8.
- ParadisoShlee 7y agoI sure Love that "web consol".
- pnutjam 7y agolooks like a toned down version of webmin.
- hadrien01 7y agoIt's Cockpit. http://cockpit-project.org/ http://cockpit-project.org/
- pnutjam 7y agoYeah, I know it's cockpit. I'm not sure what it brings to the table. It's already possible to lock down webmin pretty heavily if I want to trust a windows admin to do linux.
- wazoox 7y agoIt's "cockpit"; I regularly give it a try, looking for a better structured, more elegant webmin replacement; alas, cockpit has like 5% of webmin features.
- nightfly 7y agoBut does it at least do that 5% well?
- wazoox 7y agoIt's pretty, but not that functional. It tends to map naively underlying functions to buttons, without much thinking in actual UI or UX. It's a better, cleaner base than Webmin but it remains inferior in all and every aspect other than that.
- digitalsushi 7y agoanyone have any insights on how oracle does their intake of this to create OEL? it's always been a bit of a mystery to me.
- pnutjam 7y agoDownload CentOS grep -rli 'centos' * | xargs -i @sed -i 's/centos]/Oracle\ Unbreakable\ Linux/gi' @ done
- pjmlp 7y agoIt is a little bit more than that.
- digitalsushi 7y agoI know there's quite a bit of testing involved to verify their unbreakable kernel stuff and ksplice stuff is compatible. I would suspect there is also the spacewalk integration stuff that is fairly different than redhat's satellite stuff.
- pnutjam 7y agoI didn't realize, until recently, that satellite 6 is no longer based on spacewalk.
- rurban 7y agoDTrace esp.
- devops4free 7y agoWhy would you waste cycles invoking grep and xargs and memory piping data back and forth, where pure sed can do it? ;)
- pnutjam 7y agoOracle has some pretty beefy hardware. They can afford the cycles. ;)
- acdha 7y agoThey don't appear to have updated their official Docker registry yet but it should hopefully be available soon for anyone who needs to test things: https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.access.redhat.com/rhel8 https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a... Following the pattern of https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.access.redhat.com/rhel8-beta https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a... and https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.access.redhat.com/rhel7 https://access.redhat.com/containers/?tab=images#/registry.a...
- cwt137 7y agoI only saw one beta. Thats crazy if they released with only doing one beta.
- satya71 7y agoFedora is their alpha, and beta to some extent
- foobarbazetc 7y agoWoooooooohooooooooo! We basically packaged our own RHEL8 on top of 7 and I’m glad we don’t have to do that for 95% of the packages anymore.