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While you're waiting for the main event to start, here are some recent interviews with Elon about self-driving cars. He's very confident. "To me right now, thi

• tigershark 7y ago
  Maybe too much confident if you ask me..
  • netinstructions 7y ago
    I agree. The interview with MIT researcher Lex Fridman was difficult to watch because it didn't seem like they were on the same page at all - Lex asking thoughtful and pointed questions and Elon dismissing them as if the questions themselves are moot because self driving is right around the corner. It was mind boggling. I am hoping Tesla can provide some specifics today because it seems Elon is living in a fantasy world (albeit one I'd like to live in if we can actually get safe self-driving cars).
    • LoSboccacc 7y ago
      I'm gonna say Elon is being extremely bold selling a technology that's current leader in deaths behind the autonomous wheels. also I can't reconcile how the new hardware is this huge leap ahead beyond raw computing power if, by Tesla own claims, previous hardware was perfectly capable of autonomous driving. seems people were getting fooled either now or before.
• dforrestwilson 7y ago
  Hmmm so then why is Tesla ranked last for autonomous driving by third party researchers? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiR7KHlq-ThAhUPHzQIHYU2DqEQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibtimes.com%2Felon-musks-tesla-surprisingly-fails-lead-autonomous-driving-technology-2786913&psig=AOvVaw1gWIsj1jFDhjHpGWy2DVii&ust=1556044547357367 https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiR... And Elon has a long history of making false claims about Tesla’s progress. For example in 2015 and 2016 he claimed that Teslas would be fully self-driving by 2018. So why shouldn’t we be skeptical? https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/teslas-self-driving-strategy-is-outdated-and-possibly-dangerous/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/teslas-self-driving-str...
  • ryanlol 7y ago
    Some big time source laundering going on in here, https://electrek.co/2019/04/19/tesla-falls-autonomous-driving-most-trusted-consumers/ https://electrek.co/2019/04/19/tesla-falls-autonomous-drivin... Your "third party research" is obviously bullshit, they go as far as including Apple in their ranking. This right here is just typical worthless marketing press release spam from a management consultancy firm.
  • DeonPenny 7y ago
    But Navigant curriculum was very unscientific. There no actual quantitive reason Tesla is worse. Is was based mainly on business factors like go-to market strategy and vision.
    • navigatesol 7y ago
      As opposed to the "scientific", "quantitative" reasoning behind Tesla being the leaders in FSD?
      • DeonPenny 7y ago
        Yes absolutely saying Tesla who gets camera data from it's a half million car doesn't give it an advantage is crazy. That not even including the fact it's the only company who can do its strategy. Google would need to get constant data and GM and legacy automakers would need sensor suites on all it's cars yesterday. No one knows if Tesla strategy will work because they don't have the data collection in place.
        • dforrestwilson 7y ago
          Neither does Tesla which makes it a moot point. They have no way to store or transmit the massive data you are describing off the platform do they? My understanding is that they have very limited storage and transmit onboard.
          • DeonPenny 7y ago
• Hamuko 7y ago
  I hope Elon has tested the autopilot in Finland during the winter then.
• cflewis 7y ago
  My guess is he means "on the highway". The scary bits of self-driving is person detection, crossing detection, roadwork detection, cyclist detection (e.g. coming up on the right when you are trying to make a right turn). The Waymo end-game that I heard was "able to go through a drive-thru". I highly doubt Tesla is anywhere near that point.
  • Xylakant 7y ago
    There have been news reports about the model 3 autopilot getting its speed limits from maps, lacking any sort of sign recognition or manual override to adjust to local conditions. The maps seem to be outdated for germany (1). That’s an essential feature even on the autobahn. Given that test result I’d even be skeptical about any claims of being ahead of the game on the highway. (1) https://m.heise.de/autos/artikel/Test-Tesla-Model-3-4400919.html?artikelseite=3 https://m.heise.de/autos/artikel/Test-Tesla-Model-3-4400919....
    • semi-extrinsic 7y ago
      This is very strange though, is there any confirmation of this? Basically, most other manufacturers like Opel, Audi, Mercedes, Hyundai, VW, Volvo, Ford, etc. has had for several years the feature to detect speed limit from computer vision recognizing the road signs. And it works reliably, as is pointed out in your link. How can Tesla be a leader in using computer vision for cars, but not be able to read the road signs?
  • jacquesm 7y ago
    > through a drive-thru The kind of drive-thru that Tesla is currently associated with involves semis rather than fast food and it would be really nice to hear that they've at least licked that particular bug (and for good, this time).
    • dwighttk 7y ago
      what does "for good, this time" even mean with their regression issue?
• eaurouge 7y ago
  Well they’re vastly ahead in one area: data collection. No other company is even close. You could argue about the quality of data but the platform is there and ever growing, and they can upgrade their hardware in the future and augment existing data.
  • stefan_ 7y ago
    Don't kid yourself, the car has no bandwidth storage or performance to send back anything other than a few raw frames from disengage events or other rare triggers.
    • slg 7y ago
      It depends entirely on how they design the system. They don't necessarily need to send all the data from the cars back home when they can send test cases to cars, run the tests in a shadow mode to collect real world results, then send the test results back home.
    • toomuchtodo 7y ago
      Short video clips from all cameras are sent back to Tesla when associated with a disengagement event, queued for upload when the vehicle is on wifi.
      • saalweachter 7y ago
        I hope to god they are sending back short video clips randomly sampling all driving conditions, not just the disengagement events.
        • toomuchtodo 7y ago
          They are.
          • mirimir 7y ago
            I wonder if Tesla is getting subpoenaed for video clips. Other than for accidents, the SEC investigation, etc.