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I disagree. That would feel like going back to the year 1999

cylinder 7y ago
What's wrong with that?
gameswithgo 7y ago
are you for real? i don’t understand why anyone has trouble leaving. there has been a huge brain drain it isn’t a good place now.
- torqueTorrent 7y ago
  >> don’t understand why anyone has trouble leaving I also find it puzzling. Then again, as with cults or other bottom feeding fads and the increasingly ubiquitous, various and sundry addictive mires and dark patterns, to avoid the trouble in leaving, it is best not to enroll in the first place.
- bartread 7y ago
  Sure: most social activities are arranged on either Facebook or WhatsApp. I tried going without but it's quite inconvenient.
torqueTorrent 7y ago
Two-thousand zero zero, party over oops, out of time.
avinium 7y ago
> That would feel like going back to the year 1999 That would be absolutely glorious.
- tehlike 7y ago
  I agree. Going back in time wouldnt be too bad. I miss the first days of twitter where i would have discussions with other engs on tech, or days where fewer but higher quality content was the norm. We probably need a better filter. I stopped using fb years ago, same for twitter. No regrets
- Kurtz79 7y ago
  I enjoyed the first years of the Internet as well, but as fun and exciting the early web, IRC ad Usenet forums were, there was no Google Maps, no Wikipedia, no next-day shipping of almost everything, no Youtube... many things I could live without today as I did at the time, but overall I think they have a decent utility. What the Internet has lost in terms of mystique and pioneering freedom, it has gained in terms of utility and convenience, IMHO. The main reason I would like to go back to 1999 would be because I would be 20 years younger :)
  - avinium 7y ago
    > What the Internet has lost in terms of mystique and pioneering freedom, it has gained in terms of utility and convenience, IMHO. Maybe I've got a bad case of the "back in my day", but I feel more and more that "mystique" is what makes life worth living. Watching a lot of movies from the 60s-90s recently, it's striking how much more effort we needed to put into everyday life back then. Want to meet a friend? Call their number, hope they're home and arrange a time. Want to watch a movie? Drive to the video store and hope they've got what you want. Out of food? You're driving to the nearest restaurant, no Uber Eats. Want to find out the median rainfall in Fiji? You're waiting for the library to open and digging through a stacks of musty old books. Nowadays, everything's instantaneous - you want something, you get it. We've lowered the bar for almost everything. If consumption and enjoyment no longer require any effort, doesn't that devalue the entire experience? What does that mean for life in general? Don't you think that humility comes from knowing the effort required to know or acquire things?
    - m_fayer 7y ago
      Hear hear. It's like the programming mindset has been applied to day to day life. Ruthless pursuit of efficiency and automation, maximum and continuous delegation to the system and machine - these things suffuse everything and are even elevated to the status of values. It makes sense with something as error-prone and cognitively challenging as code, especially considering how well suited machines are to handling it. But now these values have been transferred into the business of daily human living and taken to an extreme. How good an idea that is, and what the end results will be, those things aren't obvious to me.
ionised 7y ago
Facebook isn't the internet. There is more to it than just one social media service.

What's wrong with that?

are you for real? i don’t understand why anyone has trouble leaving. there has been a huge brain drain it isn’t a good place now.

torqueTorrent 7y ago
>> don’t understand why anyone has trouble leaving I also find it puzzling. Then again, as with cults or other bottom feeding fads and the increasingly ubiquitous, various and sundry addictive mires and dark patterns, to avoid the trouble in leaving, it is best not to enroll in the first place.
bartread 7y ago
Sure: most social activities are arranged on either Facebook or WhatsApp. I tried going without but it's quite inconvenient.

torqueTorrent 7y ago

Two-thousand zero zero, party over oops, out of time.

avinium 7y ago

> That would feel like going back to the year 1999 That would be absolutely glorious.

tehlike 7y ago
I agree. Going back in time wouldnt be too bad. I miss the first days of twitter where i would have discussions with other engs on tech, or days where fewer but higher quality content was the norm. We probably need a better filter. I stopped using fb years ago, same for twitter. No regrets
Kurtz79 7y ago
I enjoyed the first years of the Internet as well, but as fun and exciting the early web, IRC ad Usenet forums were, there was no Google Maps, no Wikipedia, no next-day shipping of almost everything, no Youtube... many things I could live without today as I did at the time, but overall I think they have a decent utility. What the Internet has lost in terms of mystique and pioneering freedom, it has gained in terms of utility and convenience, IMHO. The main reason I would like to go back to 1999 would be because I would be 20 years younger :)
- avinium 7y ago
  > What the Internet has lost in terms of mystique and pioneering freedom, it has gained in terms of utility and convenience, IMHO. Maybe I've got a bad case of the "back in my day", but I feel more and more that "mystique" is what makes life worth living. Watching a lot of movies from the 60s-90s recently, it's striking how much more effort we needed to put into everyday life back then. Want to meet a friend? Call their number, hope they're home and arrange a time. Want to watch a movie? Drive to the video store and hope they've got what you want. Out of food? You're driving to the nearest restaurant, no Uber Eats. Want to find out the median rainfall in Fiji? You're waiting for the library to open and digging through a stacks of musty old books. Nowadays, everything's instantaneous - you want something, you get it. We've lowered the bar for almost everything. If consumption and enjoyment no longer require any effort, doesn't that devalue the entire experience? What does that mean for life in general? Don't you think that humility comes from knowing the effort required to know or acquire things?
  - m_fayer 7y ago
    Hear hear. It's like the programming mindset has been applied to day to day life. Ruthless pursuit of efficiency and automation, maximum and continuous delegation to the system and machine - these things suffuse everything and are even elevated to the status of values. It makes sense with something as error-prone and cognitively challenging as code, especially considering how well suited machines are to handling it. But now these values have been transferred into the business of daily human living and taken to an extreme. How good an idea that is, and what the end results will be, those things aren't obvious to me.

ionised 7y ago

Facebook isn't the internet. There is more to it than just one social media service.