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Org mode for vim

42 points by edb 16y ago

schallis 16y ago
Wonderful project, it seems I'm not the only one who was reluctant to switch to Emacs just for org-mode.
- wwortiz 16y ago
  With viper it's almost like not switching :P
  - schallis 16y ago
    I disagree, Viper mode is a very thin imitation of a few Vim commands. Slightly too thin for my liking, even on the most compatible of modes :p Besides, to really experience the benefits of Emacs you have to dive right in. There are many Emacs features I wish Vim had but I fear many of these diminish in value when taken out of their natural environment. The reverse can also be argued to a lesser extent.
    - wwortiz 16y ago
      Maybe take a look at this then: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Vimpulse http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Vimpulse but it all really matters how much and which way you use vim.
      - schallis 16y ago
        Oh cool, it'll be interesting to see if that makes a switch more compelling.
- nprincigalli 16y ago
  I'm at home with vim (10+ years + a finely tuned and pimped up ~/.vim/) and have used vimoutliner a lot, but it goes in the opposite way for me: org-mode is one of the reasons I'm considering giving emacs another chance :)
samstokes 16y ago
Looks interesting. Since the README is minimal, some questions: Is the intent to use the same format as, or otherwise interoperate with, org-mode for emacs? Also, worth comparing with vimoutliner? (http://vimoutliner.org http://vimoutliner.org)
- bokchoi 16y ago
  It looks like it uses the same format. At the end of first video[1], he shells out to an emacs server to format the .org file as html. [1] http://vimeo.com/16543959 http://vimeo.com/16543959
sh1mmer 16y ago
Could someone explain what "Org" mode is? The readme is pretty sparse.
- hbien 16y ago
  http://orgmode.org/ http://orgmode.org/
bryanwb 16y ago
wow, i left vim for emacs 3 years ago solely because of org-mode. If this matures i might go back
- yangyang 16y ago
  I left vim for emacs solely because of how much nicer emacs lisp is than scripting stuff in vim: https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer/blob/master/ftplugin/org.vim https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer/blob/master/ftplugin/o....
  - xtho 16y ago
    With the introduction of additional data structures (lists, dictionaries that can also be used for prototype-based programming) in vim7, I don't think vimscript is that bad. And you can also use python/ruby/perl/tcl/scheme/lua/whatever when you have the proper version of vim.
    - yangyang 16y ago
      I'm glad it's improving. Whilst being able to script vim with lots of different languages is great, it's a shame it's not just one, since nobody really wants some hybrid beast linked against 6 different interpreters just to run a few scripts in one's editor.
  - bryanwb 16y ago
    I agree that vim scripting is crap but hjkl for navigation is just so addictive
    - yangyang 16y ago
      Very true. I find the emacs shortcuts nicer on command lines though. I find the modality is too much of an overhead there.
gcb 16y ago
Don't think that goes well in a text editor... Also, how will I keep joking about emacs bloat?
bathizte 16y ago
When I was looking for a vim-orgmode, I found viki/deplate : I found it quite confusing but it seems to take much inspiration from org-mode, is mature, and integrates with TVO (the vim outliner). Some references : Viki : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=861 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=861 TVO : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=517 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=517 Some notes from Swaroop C H :http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Vim_en:Personal_Information_Management http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Vim_en:Personal_Information_M...

Org mode for vim

42 points by edb 16y ago

schallis 16y ago

Wonderful project, it seems I'm not the only one who was reluctant to switch to Emacs just for org-mode.

wwortiz 16y ago
With viper it's almost like not switching :P
- schallis 16y ago
  I disagree, Viper mode is a very thin imitation of a few Vim commands. Slightly too thin for my liking, even on the most compatible of modes :p Besides, to really experience the benefits of Emacs you have to dive right in. There are many Emacs features I wish Vim had but I fear many of these diminish in value when taken out of their natural environment. The reverse can also be argued to a lesser extent.
  - wwortiz 16y ago
    Maybe take a look at this then: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Vimpulse http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Vimpulse but it all really matters how much and which way you use vim.
    - schallis 16y ago
      Oh cool, it'll be interesting to see if that makes a switch more compelling.
nprincigalli 16y ago
I'm at home with vim (10+ years + a finely tuned and pimped up ~/.vim/) and have used vimoutliner a lot, but it goes in the opposite way for me: org-mode is one of the reasons I'm considering giving emacs another chance :)

samstokes 16y ago

Looks interesting. Since the README is minimal, some questions: Is the intent to use the same format as, or otherwise interoperate with, org-mode for emacs? Also, worth comparing with vimoutliner? (http://vimoutliner.org http://vimoutliner.org)

bokchoi 16y ago
It looks like it uses the same format. At the end of first video[1], he shells out to an emacs server to format the .org file as html. [1] http://vimeo.com/16543959 http://vimeo.com/16543959

sh1mmer 16y ago

Could someone explain what "Org" mode is? The readme is pretty sparse.

hbien 16y ago
http://orgmode.org/ http://orgmode.org/

bryanwb 16y ago

wow, i left vim for emacs 3 years ago solely because of org-mode. If this matures i might go back

yangyang 16y ago
I left vim for emacs solely because of how much nicer emacs lisp is than scripting stuff in vim: https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer/blob/master/ftplugin/org.vim https://github.com/hsitz/VimOrganizer/blob/master/ftplugin/o....
- xtho 16y ago
  With the introduction of additional data structures (lists, dictionaries that can also be used for prototype-based programming) in vim7, I don't think vimscript is that bad. And you can also use python/ruby/perl/tcl/scheme/lua/whatever when you have the proper version of vim.
  - yangyang 16y ago
    I'm glad it's improving. Whilst being able to script vim with lots of different languages is great, it's a shame it's not just one, since nobody really wants some hybrid beast linked against 6 different interpreters just to run a few scripts in one's editor.
- bryanwb 16y ago
  I agree that vim scripting is crap but hjkl for navigation is just so addictive
  - yangyang 16y ago
    Very true. I find the emacs shortcuts nicer on command lines though. I find the modality is too much of an overhead there.

gcb 16y ago

Don't think that goes well in a text editor... Also, how will I keep joking about emacs bloat?

bathizte 16y ago

When I was looking for a vim-orgmode, I found viki/deplate : I found it quite confusing but it seems to take much inspiration from org-mode, is mature, and integrates with TVO (the vim outliner). Some references : Viki : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=861 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=861 TVO : http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=517 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=517 Some notes from Swaroop C H :http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Vim_en:Personal_Information_Management http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Vim_en:Personal_Information_M...