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Jeremie Miller, 1999: > "Jabber is a new project I recently started to create a complete open-source platform for Instant Messaging with transparent communicat
by ppjet6 8y ago
Jeremie Miller, 1999:
> "Jabber is a new project I recently started to create a complete open-source platform for Instant Messaging with transparent communication to other IM systems(ICQ, AIM, etc).
Matthew Hodgson, 2019:
> I think they missed the the bit where Matrix is called Matrix because it bridges (matrixes) the existing networks (Slack, IRC, Telegram, Discord, XMPP, etc) in, rather than needing to convince everyone to join.
- Moru 8y agohttps://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- rafbuff 8y agohttps://xkcd.com/1810/ https://xkcd.com/1810/ even better. But hey, we are using IMAP and Mail which is already in the picture.
- Arathorn 8y agohttps://matrix.org/blog/2017/03/11/how-do-i-bridge-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/ https://matrix.org/blog/2017/03/11/how-do-i-bridge-thee-let-... is the matrix take on that one ;P
- chrisweekly 8y agohaha, awesome. Love the lonely "Apache request logs" circle. :)
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- anilakar 8y agoI remember paging a sysadmin once through the failed auth log with sudo.
- noisy_boy 8y agoOne more: communicate over draft messages in shared email account[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal
- Dylan16807 8y agoThat's not how interconnects work. You don't even have to connect to Matrix, you can just use it to link existing systems more easily. Pretend there is no protocol/standard and it still does a good job.
- cvwright 8y agoIf everyone shared your (lack of) optimism, then we'd still be stuck with: * Wonky unwieldy hypertext systems instead of the WWW * The Nomad instead of the iPod * The Blackberry instead of the iPhone * GNU Hurd instead of Linux * Geocities instead of Facebook (-- OK maybe that one's a wash :-) The point is, sometimes it's worth trying again until you can make it work.
- acct1771 8y agoIt will work this time. We don't have much choice!
- LinuxBender 8y agoI would gladly trade in Facebook for Geocities (now neocities.org, it's open source replacement)
- LMMojo 8y agoI don't ever remember being 'stuck' with GNU Hurd. It was a "non-product" with a little more evidence of progress than Duke Nukem Forever. Back in those days, I used SunOS (later Solaris), HP-UX, DEC Ultrix, IBM AIX, Tandem Guardian and SGI Irix.
- ndnxhs 8y agoThe point is no one would try to make Linux because someone already tried hurd
- themacguffinman 8y agoThe more likely outcome is that GNU Hurd would be developed to be similar to Linux if Linus chose to stick with existing projects instead. Linux had real improvements over Hurd but it'd be silly to suggest that a separate "Linux" brand kernel needed to exist to make those improvements possible.
- 5166cc9c39fa61 8y agoThose are some really good examples of the opposite of what you intended to say. > * Wonky unwieldy hypertext systems instead of the WWW Which ones? Gopher wasn't hypertext, but it is still going and still a good idea. A conversion to Gopher would be a huge usability and accessibility upgrade for many current websites. > * The Nomad instead of the iPod iTunes is garbage. iPods sucked until (certain models) had Rockbox ported to them. > * The Blackberry instead of the iPhone How about the Nokia n900 instead? > * GNU Hurd instead of Linux I'm "stuck" with BSD. Send help? Ambitious projects are cool and should be encouraged. Being an ignoramus about existing developments (not saying that that is what the people behind Matrix are doing) and getting distracted by anything that claims novelty should not be. Hoare had a great bon mot about this: "Here is a language [Algol 60] so far ahead of its time, that it was not only an improvement on its predecessors, but also on nearly all its successors."