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It's well known that there is a lot of shared behavior among apes. We look for patterns in behavior across species to better understand that behavior. I never n
by comesee 8y ago
It's well known that there is a lot of shared behavior among apes. We look for patterns in behavior across species to better understand that behavior. I never name-called or dehumanized anyone and to think I did is an unprovoked and uncharitible interpretation of my initial statement. My goal was to frame the behavior Jacques observed in an objective scientific context. My goal was never to "call people chimps." Do you think it's possible for someone to point out shared behavior between humans and other apes without malicious intentions?
- DonHopkins 8y agoWow, you really are the archetypal sea lion, aren't you? You've seen the cartoon of course, haven't you? Of course you have, because you're acting exactly as the cartoon describes, and you are well aware of what you're doing, while pretending you don't know, and that you never heard of the term, even after it's been pointed out to you several times. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sea-lioning Now that I've given you a link and explained it to you yet again, your pretense of not knowing what we're talking about when we accuse you of sea-lioning is no longer valid, so give it up. Failure to acknowledge that you've read the definition of that term, understand what it means, and how it perfectly describes what you're doing, constitutes an admission of guilt that you're not arguing in good faith.
- comesee 8y agoSo how do you expect me to respond now that I've seen this cartoon? I genuinely have no ill will towards you or anyone, I'm simply trying to defend what I think is right in what I think is the most reasonable and civil way possible. Accusing someone of "sea lioning" is creating a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, if you're criticizing them for being reasonable and civil, how else should they defend themselves? Is it possible to bring up ape behavioral studies without being accused of bad intentions? What do you propose is the best way to go about it?
- DonHopkins 8y agoStop.
- comesee 8y agoWow, no counter argument. Just shut down discussion. Okay
- DonHopkins 8y agoNo, not okay. Just stop.
- comesee 8y agoYou stop. See how productive that is?
- DonHopkins 8y agoNow you've lost all pretense of being reasonable and civil, and you're proven beyond a doubt that you understand precisely what sea lioning is, and that you're doing it consciously and on purpose, and that you're not arguing in good faith, and that your intentions are bad.
- comesee 8y agoSo mimicking you proves I am acting in bad faith? Well you got me (that's sarcasm). I mean this in the best and most compassionate way possible: seek help.