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I thought testing against placebo was a standard procedure in medicine and without such testing treatments wouldn't even be approved.

• joshgel 8y ago
  Yes, but patients always consent to be randomized to the possibility of being treated with placebo.
  • gruez 8y ago
    in a clinical trial setting or in general? I'm not sure about everyone else, but I sure wouldn't want the possibility of getting a placebo when I'm at the doctors/hospital.
    • joshgel 8y ago
      trial only. you would have to consent.
  • ekianjo 8y ago
    > Yes, but patients always consent to be randomized to the possibility of being treated with placebo. This is false as a blanket statement. For specific categories like Cancer treatments, nobody is given placebo in Phase III for example, because their life/survival is at stake. For such clinical trials you prove the efficacy by comparing with the typical survival in other studies/other treatments (overall survival chart) like this: https://media.revlimid.com/wp-content/uploads/mm-hcp-overall-survival-chart-mobile.png https://media.revlimid.com/wp-content/uploads/mm-hcp-overall...
    • joshgel 8y ago
      Right, more correctly I should have said: Yes, but in trial where patients may receive placebo, the patients always consent to be randomized to the possibility of being treated with placebo.
  • srtjstjsj 8y ago
    jonawesomegreen linked to a story about an FDA-approved fake treatment.