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"Rumours of my acquisition are completely false. My humans and I are happily independent and plan to remain so." https://twitter.com/1Password/status/101671060

"Rumours of my acquisition are completely false. My humans and I are happily independent and plan to remain so." https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1016710603359096846 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1016710603359096846

untog 8y ago
Very glad to hear it. Last thing I need is for a neglected/abandoned Android version of 1Password.
wilsonnb2 8y ago
Certainly wouldn't be the first time a company didn't want the public to know it was talking about being acquired.
- evan_ 8y ago
  There's a difference between being quiet about an acquisition and just completely lying about it though- especially from a company that relies on being considered trustworthy
  - solomatov 8y ago
    They say that they currently plan to remain independent. It doesn't mean there're no acquisition talks. And also this doesn't mean that there're no conditions under which they consider being acquired.
  - heavymark 8y ago
    If they said, "1P doesn't comment on rumors, etc or we have no comments at this time" like Apple it would be very off brand for them and would make people assume they were getting bought. If they didn't say anything people would assume they were getting bought. So all they can do is deny without blatantly lying such as they can't say something like, "we have had no talks with Apple about an acquisition or offering our special program to apple employees.". But they can say something like rumors are false, since they don't say what part of the rumor is false, and they aren't planning to sell until they actually do. We'll know very soon if Apple employees do get a special version soon and if that part of the rumor is true, one can assume they eventually will purchase them, or talent purchase.
PKop 8y ago
Negotiating tactic perhaps...
davidkuhta 8y ago
> Apple had very specific requirements for this deal, code-named B2 Guess B2 was the code-name for a different project, one focused on leak detection.
- jw1224 8y ago
  That's weird — I'd read on the internal memo it was going to be called K5.
- deleted 8y ago
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overcast 8y ago
Riiiiiight. That's what everyone says right before the incredible journey blog post gets uploaded. Also this response. :D Bryan Jones ‏ @bdkjones 15m15 minutes ago Replying to @1Password @markgurman I’d literally pay Apple to acquire you just to avoid more “my humans and I” tweets.
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  I'm glad this "made by humans" thing is starting to go the way of "made with &heart; in California", background videos of macbooks & coffee, and the burrito emojis. Though I'm looking forward to the next cringeworthy cali startup meme.
  - jsmthrowaway 8y ago
    > Though I'm looking forward to the next cringeworthy cali startup meme. Like half a cringeworthy Cali startup’s engineers spending their morning at Sightglass discussing an article about a password manager software being bought and lamenting whatever that future holds for Windows support, you mean? While their white male founder is parading around saying he’s making the world a better place with his singular vision about a grand Kubernetes mumble mumble, but entertaining a slow progression of M&A offers to cash out and just dump the entire company on Red Hat or Google to sort out because “serial entrepreneur” is a better title than ever hitting one nail or dropping one load of fries? Meanwhile, deadlines keep missing because the engineers are busy commenting on this article as noted, and arguing about JavaScript frameworks, and “WFH” every Tuesday and Thursday because commuting like everyone else for $175,000 cash is just too hard for precious snowflake engineers (seriously, have you smelled BART?), and God help anyone who schedules a 10am meeting. Remember, machine learning is this cycle’s password to get a YC check, and start your own journey to enriching your wealth and throwing a bunch of starry-eyed people who mystifyingly trusted you into whatever horrible business unit of whatever horrible corporation writes you the check you’ve earned on account of your complete lack of professional experience, biological fortunes, and who you’ve done cocaine and/or Bitcoin with most recently. Oh, and you were so busy making money, you didn’t stop to notice you’ve literally handed every nation state in the world citizenry command and control capabilities they only could have dreamed of before this stupid industry found a whiteboard and daringly ventured, “what if we put millions of dollars into letting Justin Bieber type 140 characters to fans, because that could never go wrong?” Did you mean that kind of meme? If not, I may have some bad news. You added an unnecessary level of indirection. The startups don’t have memes. They are the meme.
tstrimple 8y ago
That's a relief. Apple acquiring 1Password would torpedo any chance of getting a decent implementation on Windows. The implementation and integration on OS X are sublime, but Windows still leave a LOT to be desired.
- Analemma_ 8y ago
  I agree that 1Password on Windows has issues, but I feel like the developers got screwed by Microsoft on this one: they went all in on a UWP version, then had to throw all that out and basically start from square one when it became clear that UWP was a dead end. So I cut them some slack on that score. 1Password for Windows is improving, it's just taking a while (version 7 is a big step up, for example)
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    UWP is such a dead end that all new Windows 10 APIs are UWP only.
    - cm2187 8y ago
      Last time I checked, about half of the windows market is running Windows 7 which doesn't support UWP. So UWP is a dead end for anyone who needs broad compatibility.
      - dingo_bat 8y ago
        Windows 7 is a dead end. UWP is the future, however shitty it currently may be.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Windows 7 is having beers with XP at retirement home.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    How exactly is UWP a dead end? Genuinely asking.
smsm42 8y ago
That's encouraging. Given the usability (or absence of such) of iTunes etc. I would hate to have to look for replacement for 1passwd.

untog 8y ago

Very glad to hear it. Last thing I need is for a neglected/abandoned Android version of 1Password.

wilsonnb2 8y ago

Certainly wouldn't be the first time a company didn't want the public to know it was talking about being acquired.

evan_ 8y ago
There's a difference between being quiet about an acquisition and just completely lying about it though- especially from a company that relies on being considered trustworthy
- solomatov 8y ago
  They say that they currently plan to remain independent. It doesn't mean there're no acquisition talks. And also this doesn't mean that there're no conditions under which they consider being acquired.
- heavymark 8y ago
  If they said, "1P doesn't comment on rumors, etc or we have no comments at this time" like Apple it would be very off brand for them and would make people assume they were getting bought. If they didn't say anything people would assume they were getting bought. So all they can do is deny without blatantly lying such as they can't say something like, "we have had no talks with Apple about an acquisition or offering our special program to apple employees.". But they can say something like rumors are false, since they don't say what part of the rumor is false, and they aren't planning to sell until they actually do. We'll know very soon if Apple employees do get a special version soon and if that part of the rumor is true, one can assume they eventually will purchase them, or talent purchase.

PKop 8y ago

Negotiating tactic perhaps...

davidkuhta 8y ago

> Apple had very specific requirements for this deal, code-named B2 Guess B2 was the code-name for a different project, one focused on leak detection.

jw1224 8y ago
That's weird — I'd read on the internal memo it was going to be called K5.
deleted 8y ago
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overcast 8y ago

Riiiiiight. That's what everyone says right before the incredible journey blog post gets uploaded. Also this response. :D Bryan Jones ‏ @bdkjones 15m15 minutes ago Replying to @1Password @markgurman I’d literally pay Apple to acquire you just to avoid more “my humans and I” tweets.

beaconstudios 8y ago
I'm glad this "made by humans" thing is starting to go the way of "made with &heart; in California", background videos of macbooks & coffee, and the burrito emojis. Though I'm looking forward to the next cringeworthy cali startup meme.
- jsmthrowaway 8y ago
  > Though I'm looking forward to the next cringeworthy cali startup meme. Like half a cringeworthy Cali startup’s engineers spending their morning at Sightglass discussing an article about a password manager software being bought and lamenting whatever that future holds for Windows support, you mean? While their white male founder is parading around saying he’s making the world a better place with his singular vision about a grand Kubernetes mumble mumble, but entertaining a slow progression of M&A offers to cash out and just dump the entire company on Red Hat or Google to sort out because “serial entrepreneur” is a better title than ever hitting one nail or dropping one load of fries? Meanwhile, deadlines keep missing because the engineers are busy commenting on this article as noted, and arguing about JavaScript frameworks, and “WFH” every Tuesday and Thursday because commuting like everyone else for $175,000 cash is just too hard for precious snowflake engineers (seriously, have you smelled BART?), and God help anyone who schedules a 10am meeting. Remember, machine learning is this cycle’s password to get a YC check, and start your own journey to enriching your wealth and throwing a bunch of starry-eyed people who mystifyingly trusted you into whatever horrible business unit of whatever horrible corporation writes you the check you’ve earned on account of your complete lack of professional experience, biological fortunes, and who you’ve done cocaine and/or Bitcoin with most recently. Oh, and you were so busy making money, you didn’t stop to notice you’ve literally handed every nation state in the world citizenry command and control capabilities they only could have dreamed of before this stupid industry found a whiteboard and daringly ventured, “what if we put millions of dollars into letting Justin Bieber type 140 characters to fans, because that could never go wrong?” Did you mean that kind of meme? If not, I may have some bad news. You added an unnecessary level of indirection. The startups don’t have memes. They are the meme.

tstrimple 8y ago

That's a relief. Apple acquiring 1Password would torpedo any chance of getting a decent implementation on Windows. The implementation and integration on OS X are sublime, but Windows still leave a LOT to be desired.

Analemma_ 8y ago
I agree that 1Password on Windows has issues, but I feel like the developers got screwed by Microsoft on this one: they went all in on a UWP version, then had to throw all that out and basically start from square one when it became clear that UWP was a dead end. So I cut them some slack on that score. 1Password for Windows is improving, it's just taking a while (version 7 is a big step up, for example)
- pjmlp 8y ago
  UWP is such a dead end that all new Windows 10 APIs are UWP only.
  - cm2187 8y ago
    Last time I checked, about half of the windows market is running Windows 7 which doesn't support UWP. So UWP is a dead end for anyone who needs broad compatibility.
    - dingo_bat 8y ago
      Windows 7 is a dead end. UWP is the future, however shitty it currently may be.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Windows 7 is having beers with XP at retirement home.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  How exactly is UWP a dead end? Genuinely asking.

smsm42 8y ago

That's encouraging. Given the usability (or absence of such) of iTunes etc. I would hate to have to look for replacement for 1passwd.