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Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Back in the early days of the iPod's success, company after company came out with iPod-killers that all basical

Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Back in the early days of the iPod's success, company after company came out with iPod-killers that all basically flopped. Then, after the iPhone became a hit, everyone touted new smartphones as iPhone killers, which also flopped. Android is the only thing which has every reached the status of a legitimate iKiller. The Android tablet or some descendent of it might be your best bet for finding the tablet you're looking for.

wvenable 16y ago
The iPod was an MP3-player killer. And the iPhone was a smartphone killer. In neither of those situations did Apple create the market -- they improved what other players were doing. Outside of Android, there were no new smartphone designs to tout as iPhone killers. My WinMo phone's underlying design predates the original iPhone by a long time even though the device itself is newer. Microsoft is finally getting around to making their iPhone killer with Windows Mobile 7.
- nmcfarl 16y ago
  Actually I think the first 2 sentences here nail this for me. If your aim is to own a category, and you have a chance at designing an awesome product. If your aim is to dethrone the current market leader in a category - well your odds are a lot lower as your focus is off.
nhooey 16y ago
By the 2nd quarter of 2010, RIM was still beating both Android and Apple in market share for Smartphones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone It's more like everyone else tried making Blackberry killers, and has yet to succeed.
- cma 16y ago
  Is Apple currently making more profit on its phones than RIM? (altogether, not per-unit; I know the answer there)
  - borism 16y ago
    was Apple making more profit on Macs than IBM did on PCs? I bet they did. But that didn't stop them from going almost bankrupt when that war was happening.
  - nhooey 16y ago
    I'm not really sure, maybe Gartner has some vague reports on that. RIM does make money on the use of their Business Enterprise Servers (BES), so in corporate installations they're taking in large sums of money on a per-year basis. Given that, and my assumption of Apple's superior profit per-unit, it might be hard to tell who makes more money on their phones overall.

wvenable 16y ago

The iPod was an MP3-player killer. And the iPhone was a smartphone killer. In neither of those situations did Apple create the market -- they improved what other players were doing. Outside of Android, there were no new smartphone designs to tout as iPhone killers. My WinMo phone's underlying design predates the original iPhone by a long time even though the device itself is newer. Microsoft is finally getting around to making their iPhone killer with Windows Mobile 7.

nmcfarl 16y ago
Actually I think the first 2 sentences here nail this for me. If your aim is to own a category, and you have a chance at designing an awesome product. If your aim is to dethrone the current market leader in a category - well your odds are a lot lower as your focus is off.

nhooey 16y ago

By the 2nd quarter of 2010, RIM was still beating both Android and Apple in market share for Smartphones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone It's more like everyone else tried making Blackberry killers, and has yet to succeed.

cma 16y ago
Is Apple currently making more profit on its phones than RIM? (altogether, not per-unit; I know the answer there)
- borism 16y ago
  was Apple making more profit on Macs than IBM did on PCs? I bet they did. But that didn't stop them from going almost bankrupt when that war was happening.
- nhooey 16y ago
  I'm not really sure, maybe Gartner has some vague reports on that. RIM does make money on the use of their Business Enterprise Servers (BES), so in corporate installations they're taking in large sums of money on a per-year basis. Given that, and my assumption of Apple's superior profit per-unit, it might be hard to tell who makes more money on their phones overall.