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so, facts are hurting you, right?

wybiral 9y ago
Not in the least. I just noticed that you seem to have a bit of an agenda. Nothing wrong with that, but you've presented more rhetoric than fact as far as I can see.
- longcheng 9y ago
  I am mature enough and proud to have a consistent view.
smsm42 9y ago
In Russia, they say professional internet trolls get 11 RUR per comment (about 18c). I am curious how it is in China? Is it more or less?
- longcheng 9y ago
  well, at least Russian does that for a living. In America, some internet trolls do it for free, as they choose to ignore the facts, or too lazy to check the facts.
  - musage 9y ago
    What facts? You boast about might being right like a caveman, and call that progress. You're not even capable of hearing the words of truly progressive people, and what I criticize the US, European countries and others for, I could never admire about China. A few lines from a poem by Erich Friend come to mind: the imprint of their naked feet / in the desert sand / will outlast the silhouettes / of your bombs and tanks That goes for everybody, everywhere. Past, present, future. Identifying with a nation, religion or race is not a sign of greatness, it's a sign that a person didn't get to develop. Having reached the local optimum available to you does not equal maturity, having no room left to grow does not mean you're big. Tens of billions multiplied by zero still equals zero.
- richardknop 9y ago
  You would be surprised how many people are trolls for free. Just brainwashed people parroting Russian talking points planted by Putin's intelligence service. I can see this on discussion forums in Eastern Europe. I don't doubt many of those people genuinely believe those things and are not being paid.
- noarchy 9y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
- deleted 9y ago
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- baybal2 9y ago
  5 RUR, but that was over 10 years ago. These days, it must be over 10 times that.
- dang 9y ago
  This breaks the HN guidelines. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow them regardless of what you think of someone else's comments.
dang 9y ago
On HN, it's necessary not to use the site primarily for political or national battle, and not ok to have a single-purpose account. You're welcome here as long as you want to use Hacker News as intended, but that means using it for intellectual curiosity, not lashing out at perceived national slights. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Because the community is Western-oriented and most of us are rather ignorant of things Chinese, I'm sure that many things people say on China topics can be hard to take. Nevertheless, we can't have nationalistic flamewars. If you know more, the thing to do is to teach us, in a good spirit. If you can't or don't want to do that, that's fine, but then please refrain from posting. I realize that it's not easy to hold a minority viewpoint under such conditions, but it's not in your interest to break the rules like this; it ends up representing your viewpoint in a bad way, which doesn't help.

Not in the least. I just noticed that you seem to have a bit of an agenda. Nothing wrong with that, but you've presented more rhetoric than fact as far as I can see.

longcheng 9y ago
I am mature enough and proud to have a consistent view.

smsm42 9y ago

In Russia, they say professional internet trolls get 11 RUR per comment (about 18c). I am curious how it is in China? Is it more or less?

longcheng 9y ago
well, at least Russian does that for a living. In America, some internet trolls do it for free, as they choose to ignore the facts, or too lazy to check the facts.
- musage 9y ago
  What facts? You boast about might being right like a caveman, and call that progress. You're not even capable of hearing the words of truly progressive people, and what I criticize the US, European countries and others for, I could never admire about China. A few lines from a poem by Erich Friend come to mind: the imprint of their naked feet / in the desert sand / will outlast the silhouettes / of your bombs and tanks That goes for everybody, everywhere. Past, present, future. Identifying with a nation, religion or race is not a sign of greatness, it's a sign that a person didn't get to develop. Having reached the local optimum available to you does not equal maturity, having no room left to grow does not mean you're big. Tens of billions multiplied by zero still equals zero.
richardknop 9y ago
You would be surprised how many people are trolls for free. Just brainwashed people parroting Russian talking points planted by Putin's intelligence service. I can see this on discussion forums in Eastern Europe. I don't doubt many of those people genuinely believe those things and are not being paid.
noarchy 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
deleted 9y ago
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baybal2 9y ago
5 RUR, but that was over 10 years ago. These days, it must be over 10 times that.
dang 9y ago
This breaks the HN guidelines. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow them regardless of what you think of someone else's comments.

dang 9y ago

On HN, it's necessary not to use the site primarily for political or national battle, and not ok to have a single-purpose account. You're welcome here as long as you want to use Hacker News as intended, but that means using it for intellectual curiosity, not lashing out at perceived national slights. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Because the community is Western-oriented and most of us are rather ignorant of things Chinese, I'm sure that many things people say on China topics can be hard to take. Nevertheless, we can't have nationalistic flamewars. If you know more, the thing to do is to teach us, in a good spirit. If you can't or don't want to do that, that's fine, but then please refrain from posting. I realize that it's not easy to hold a minority viewpoint under such conditions, but it's not in your interest to break the rules like this; it ends up representing your viewpoint in a bad way, which doesn't help.