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I'd say that Chavez and his family doing more to enrich themselves than plan for the country's future when oil prices inevitably dropped played a large part.
by troisx 9y ago
I'd say that Chavez and his family doing more to enrich themselves than plan for the country's future when oil prices inevitably dropped played a large part.
- jim-jim-jim 9y agoYou can say what you want. Doesn't change the fact that Chavez helped bring many of Venezuela's poor towards something approaching a dignified standard of living.
- gozur88 9y agoSure, by stealing money from the people who have it and giving it to poor people, for a short time you make the lot of the poor better. Now where there were few jobs there are none, and crime has gone from a big problem to a terrible problem. Soon there will be war. These are not policies that benefit the poor.
- crdoconnor 9y ago>Sure, by stealing money from the people who have it and giving it to poor people Largely by redirecting money from oil exports to anti-poverty programs. Before he took power that money was mostly siphoned off abroad and by the upper classes. Do you really think the country would have fared much better if this practice continued?
- gozur88 9y agoThe economy was growing under Chavez's predecessors. Yes, it would have fared much, much better. What he did with oil is less important than what he did to the rest of the economy. Chavez was lucky, in a way, because he died right about the time math caught up with his economic policies.
- crdoconnor 9y agoActually the economy suffered a massive contraction in the 80s when - surprise! - oil prices plunged. This is partly what led Chavez into power - mostly because while the country technically returned to growth - wages did not go up and unemployment did not go down. Same cause last time as this time but last time was "all the fault of capitalism" and this one was "all the fault of socialism".
- jim-jim-jim 9y agoCapitalism is theft. It's mathematically impossible for the holder of capital to generate profit if he pays workers wages equal to the value their labor produces. Somebody has to be shortchanged somewhere along the line. The rich in Venezuela should be thankful they only have to deal with mild social democratic wealth redistribution policies.
- apk-d 9y agoEverything except capitalism is theft. In a free market every good exchange is voluntary - made because both parties have decided they're slightly better off with it (else, they wouldn't participate). Therefore, everything but a free market implies deals that are non-voluntary for at least one of the parties.
- gozur88 9y agoVoluntary economic associations are not theft. To say that capitalism is theft is to engage in sophistry. It's only theft if the workers are actually slaves.
- tbihl 9y agoAnd brought all of Venezuela toward the eventual disaster under Maduro that was the necessary result of his policies.