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> That database must be a wet dream for law enforcement. Because obviously people buying a few pills of ecstasy or a tab of LSD are a serious danger to society

> That database must be a wet dream for law enforcement. Because obviously people buying a few pills of ecstasy or a tab of LSD are a serious danger to society and should be taken of the streets. /s

kbenson 9y ago
> Because obviously people buying a few pills of ecstasy or a tab of LSD are a serious danger to society and should be taken of the streets. /s Because obviously it's impossible to express that one party might have viewed an outcome as favorable without agreeing with that view. /s
- forgotpwtomain 9y ago
  Well given that this party is funded by taxpayers, for the purported benefit of said taxpayers and their society; I do think its problematic that said party would hold such a view.
  - kbenson 9y ago
    I have no problem calling out what you believe are unjust laws, but the way you did so implies some agreement with those laws from the commentor you were replying to, as well as some responsibility for those laws existing from the police that carry them out. Calling out a commentor's statement about the police's state of mind at concluding what was undoubtedly a large project for their department doesn't effectively work as a launchpad into a critique of those responsible for the law when done through terse sarcasm that seems to target the wrong responsible parties.
mfoy_ 9y ago
Because the police will totally arrest every single user and not focus on the high-volume buyers / sellers. /s
- snaily 9y ago
  Until you look at an officer the wrong way. Or their friend. Or someone else with the ear of the boys in blue.
- aaron695 9y ago
  This is a confusing statement since you /s You don't need a address to send mail - sellers. Personal use can be huge amounts - buyers I can't see many dealers using dark markets above plausible personal use amounts since you get caught importing dealable quantities you are screwed, dark market or not (And the mail system will get a % of buyers). You might have a $1000 per week habit or be a $1000 per week dealer. Who's to say?
- tgragnato 9y ago
  I do not think it's really that clear. Sometimes the state apparatus is precisely the one committing the most heinous crimes. (with impunity!) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffi... > http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html
z3phyr 9y ago
People under influence do indeed pose danger to other people. Even the influence of alcohol is potentially dangerous in certain situations leading to incidents ranging from hit and run to domestic violence.
- vkou 9y ago
  People with _______ pose a danger to other people. It is incredibly hypocritical to come down on someone for consuming LSD in their own home, but not on someone getting pissed drunk in their own home. Tens of thousands of people are killed by people under the influence of alcohol in the United States. How many people are killed by people under the influence of LSD? (I have never used drugs, other then alcohol.)
  - dsfyu404ed 9y ago
    Guns, cars, "homosexual tendencies", etc, etc all fit into that blank.
    - metaobject 9y ago
      People with homosexual tendencies pose a danger to other people?
      - eecc 9y ago
        Missing /s?
- scotty79 9y ago
  Even alcohol? Alcohol is the most endangering drug. Because of wide spread use (no competition because in many places it's the only legal drug), addictiveness, toxicity and intrinsic nastiness of influence it has on some users.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    Where is it the only legal drug? Nicotine is often regulated but legal nearly everywhere, and I don't think caffeine is banned anywhere.
BearGoesChirp 9y ago
They fund the ones supplying those drugs which involves a significant harm to society. Just look at people who are unwilling participants in the drug trade or those who receive funds from selling drugs to sell other things such as weapons or even humans. (Yes, I realize legalizing local drug production and distribution would undercut the market, which is one reason why I am for legalization. But that does not excuse supporting the current cartels.)
- mikeash 9y ago
  I'm aware of the huge criminal activity that goes along with drugs like cocaine, but are ecstasy and LSD makers in the same category?
  - 2preserve 9y ago
    LSD no. Not enough demand. But I would imagine ecstasy attracts a pretty big criminal element. It's been a popular drug for 30 years
5_minutes 9y ago
Not all clients were end-consumers. You could also order kilograms there. Obviously.

> That database must be a wet dream for law enforcement. Because obviously people buying a few pills of ecstasy or a tab of LSD are a serious danger to society and should be taken of the streets. /s

kbenson 9y ago

> Because obviously people buying a few pills of ecstasy or a tab of LSD are a serious danger to society and should be taken of the streets. /s Because obviously it's impossible to express that one party might have viewed an outcome as favorable without agreeing with that view. /s

forgotpwtomain 9y ago
Well given that this party is funded by taxpayers, for the purported benefit of said taxpayers and their society; I do think its problematic that said party would hold such a view.
- kbenson 9y ago
  I have no problem calling out what you believe are unjust laws, but the way you did so implies some agreement with those laws from the commentor you were replying to, as well as some responsibility for those laws existing from the police that carry them out. Calling out a commentor's statement about the police's state of mind at concluding what was undoubtedly a large project for their department doesn't effectively work as a launchpad into a critique of those responsible for the law when done through terse sarcasm that seems to target the wrong responsible parties.

mfoy_ 9y ago

Because the police will totally arrest every single user and not focus on the high-volume buyers / sellers. /s

snaily 9y ago
Until you look at an officer the wrong way. Or their friend. Or someone else with the ear of the boys in blue.
aaron695 9y ago
This is a confusing statement since you /s You don't need a address to send mail - sellers. Personal use can be huge amounts - buyers I can't see many dealers using dark markets above plausible personal use amounts since you get caught importing dealable quantities you are screwed, dark market or not (And the mail system will get a % of buyers). You might have a $1000 per week habit or be a $1000 per week dealer. Who's to say?
tgragnato 9y ago
I do not think it's really that clear. Sometimes the state apparatus is precisely the one committing the most heinous crimes. (with impunity!) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traffi... > http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html

z3phyr 9y ago

People under influence do indeed pose danger to other people. Even the influence of alcohol is potentially dangerous in certain situations leading to incidents ranging from hit and run to domestic violence.

vkou 9y ago
People with _______ pose a danger to other people. It is incredibly hypocritical to come down on someone for consuming LSD in their own home, but not on someone getting pissed drunk in their own home. Tens of thousands of people are killed by people under the influence of alcohol in the United States. How many people are killed by people under the influence of LSD? (I have never used drugs, other then alcohol.)
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  Guns, cars, "homosexual tendencies", etc, etc all fit into that blank.
  - metaobject 9y ago
    People with homosexual tendencies pose a danger to other people?
    - eecc 9y ago
      Missing /s?
scotty79 9y ago
Even alcohol? Alcohol is the most endangering drug. Because of wide spread use (no competition because in many places it's the only legal drug), addictiveness, toxicity and intrinsic nastiness of influence it has on some users.
- mikeash 9y ago
  Where is it the only legal drug? Nicotine is often regulated but legal nearly everywhere, and I don't think caffeine is banned anywhere.

BearGoesChirp 9y ago

They fund the ones supplying those drugs which involves a significant harm to society. Just look at people who are unwilling participants in the drug trade or those who receive funds from selling drugs to sell other things such as weapons or even humans. (Yes, I realize legalizing local drug production and distribution would undercut the market, which is one reason why I am for legalization. But that does not excuse supporting the current cartels.)

mikeash 9y ago
I'm aware of the huge criminal activity that goes along with drugs like cocaine, but are ecstasy and LSD makers in the same category?
- 2preserve 9y ago
  LSD no. Not enough demand. But I would imagine ecstasy attracts a pretty big criminal element. It's been a popular drug for 30 years

5_minutes 9y ago

Not all clients were end-consumers. You could also order kilograms there. Obviously.