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Wow, interesting stuff. I have not used Uber for a long time. Lyft is my goto app.
by nullnilvoid 9y ago
Wow, interesting stuff. I have not used Uber for a long time. Lyft is my goto app.
- amrrs 9y agoHad there been no Uber, there wouldn't have been Lyft. Uber is not just the first-comer or pioneer but it also fought most of the first-fights with city officials and Taxi unions which actually gave confidence to Lyft for their survival!
- eridius 9y agoJust because Uber fought those fights doesn't mean nobody else could have fought them.
- furioussloth 9y agoOf course not but they deserve hella credit for this. Also i think with all the major investigation and changes they are doing more than makes up for lot of bad things they did. If anything justice is served and people should move on.
- eridius 9y agoHow is justice served? Uber has done a tremendous amount of really shitty things. And for most of it, there has been no "justice" served. Furthermore, you're taking it as a given that Uber flagrantly violating local laws in order to launch ridesharing is a good thing, but not everybody will agree with that.
- furioussloth 9y agoMany people who had a better option than driving drunk will do. Many parents who wait for their kids to get home safe after parties will agree. The social good done is way higher to totally justify using some shady software to evade authorities. Ignoring sexual harassment complain was a huge mistake. But pretty much everyone involved was fired , an investigation by holder was carried out and most of his suggestions are being implemented. You have clearly not stayed in a city with really shitty taxi service.
- bjl 9y agoAll of those things could have done without systematically breaking the law at every turn. We shouldn't let corporations unilaterally decide which regulations they want to follow; if they think some laws are unfair they should work to change them through the democratic process like the rest of us.
- furioussloth 9y agoWell I for one am glad to have these services at my disposal earlier than later. There would be way less innovation if everyone insisted on doing things right. Which laws are broken if it is good or bad is a subjective matter. Some people though those laws were unnecessary and backward. Some people thought otherwise. IMO people got better service and drivers got income because of that brash behavior.Breaking those laws probably saved more lives than not breaking them.
- bjl 9y agoAllowing multinational corporations carte blanche to disregard any law they want is not a precedent I want our society to set. Even if it worked out in this case (which is very debatable), its a very slippery slope.
- furioussloth 9y agoyes lets just trust the administration instead. I am sure current administration has our best interest at heart /s
- bjl 9y agoThe government is at least nominally controlled by the people. That's a helluva lot better than dictatorship by corporation.
- eridius 9y agoWhat you describe is something that literally any car-sharing company anywhere provides, including taxis. This does not even remotely mean that "justice" has been served for any of the atrocities Uber has committed.
- furioussloth 9y agoCase in point http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/04/daily-chart-0 http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/04/daily-c...
- michaeldunworth 9y agoActually that is exactly what it means. How many countries does Lyft operate in? Exactly. 1.
- eridius 9y agoThe fact that Lyft is US-only really has nothing at all to do with this claim. There are other car-sharing companies in other countries (for example, Didi Chuxing).
- fcnfan 9y agoHmmm... from the outside it looked like Lyft forced Uber into the "everybody can drive" business model. Before Lyft, Uber was using licensed Limousine operators. Lyft started this and Uber followed, if I remember correctly. You are probably right that Uber had all the attention and "fought" more.