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Finally, multicore for the masses. A 6C12T based workstation is also a sweet spot for development work.
by llomlup 9y ago
Finally, multicore for the masses. A 6C12T based workstation is also a sweet spot for development work.
- jacquesm 9y agoMulticore has been 'for the masses' for a decade or more by now, even in mobile phones. What is different here than with other chips made by Intel or AMD that makes you say that?
- cma 9y agoIntel has been putting die space into integrated graphics instead of more cores. Higher core machines have been available only at very high prices.
- thomastjeffery 9y agoWhich has been a bad move in the desktop market. Who want's to pay for integrated graphics when they are just going to put one or more discreet GPUs in their system? The only reason LGA 1151 has been so successful is that most of the market consists of "gamers" who are convinced that they need higher clock speed and IPC. AM4 should only be compared to LGA 2011v3, which has a very inflated price.
- floatboth 9y agoIntel's offerings with more than 4 cores have been segregated into an "enthusiast"/HEDT platform (X99) with more expensive mainboards and the CPUs have been overpriced too. Ryzen is reasonably priced & has one socket for the 4, 8 and 6 core CPUs.
- jacquesm 9y ago4 cores still is multicore though. But ok, I see what you mean: anything with more than 4 cores that is affordable.
- llomlup 9y agoIntel's multicore CPUs (hexa-core and octa-core chips) have been available for for Intel's socket B/R systems, which are the HEDT grade. These systems came with a price premium, which isn't exactly the case for R5 and even R7 builds.
- mtgx 9y agoIf anything Intel quad-cores have been regressing in the market over the past few years. The quad-cores have gotten more expensive (in laptops), and Intel has started naming dual-core chips "Core i7", as another trick to charge almost the same prices it charges for quad-cores.
- floatboth 9y agoR7 1700 is even more of a sweet spot for development though
- gpderetta 9y agoCurrently my home 'workstation' is running a x5670@4Ghz, a 6C12T Westmere xeon from 2010, but it still competitive and can be bought for peanuts today (bought mine for 70£). Its base clock is 2.95Ghz, but it easily overclocks to 4Ghz and beyond.
- AlphaSite 9y agoIsn't the issue with these old Intel CPUs not the CPUs but the motherboards, which can retail for 2-300 as their supplies dwindle.
- gpderetta 9y agoIt might be an issue, but I still got mine (a Gigabyte x58A-UD3) for 140£. I was specifically looking for a MB with decent overclocking support and working VT-d, which limits the choice. You can get entry level x58 Intel MBs for much less (overclocking these xeons only requires bumping the BCKL to 200Mhz and maybe bumping the core voltage a bit, nothing fancy). The RAM is also still fairly cheap. If you care more about core counts than single thread clock you can find used x58 dual socket workstation MBs which also have support for large amounts of server ECC ram which is very cheap.
- user5994461 9y agoYes, it is the motherboard. Get a second hand workstation on ebay, don't get individual components.
- jhugg 9y agoI wonder how much more you pay in electricity costs over a Kaby Lake 7700K for example, which idles much lower and wouldn’t need to overclock.
- gpderetta 9y agoI'm sure that KL consumes significantly less in practice, especially idle, but for what is worth they are 91W vs 95W TDP. Anyway, the machine runs an, admittedly overkill, GTX 1070 with a TDP of 150W, so the CPU power usage is the least concern.