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> So, if I understand you correctly, Apple should decide what constitutes good parenting? It looks like they do actually, forbidding +17 year old to access the

> So, if I understand you correctly, Apple should decide what constitutes good parenting? It looks like they do actually, forbidding +17 year old to access the web. > It just seems so completely absurd and ridiculous to claim that bad design must imply that Apple doesn’t want teenagers to surf the web. How is that bad design? It clearly states that you must be more than 17 year old to access the web.

ugh 16y ago
You can download this app no matter how old you are. It will show a warning dialog but you can just dismiss that and download anyway. This age limit only matters if parental controls are enabled. You can then pick which apps can be used, based on their age limit (all of them, only 17+, …). Some OS apps like Safari get extra switches – you can explicitly decide whether Safari and a few other things can be used or not. Age limits are not always the best solution, though (what some parents deem appropriate, others do not). That’s why I think the parental controls are badly designed. Ideally you would get a switch for every app, so that you can override the age based defaults. Such a list would still be pretty horrible from a UI point of view – all your apps replicated in one unstructured list – that’s probably why Apple doesn’t do it. Or maybe they just had no time to implement that feature, yet. Either way, it’s no big deal. How would you rate a browser, know that you know how the iPhone’s parental controls work? You can access content with it that a vast majority of parents would consider 17+. (By the way, how do parental controls work on Android? I’m really curious!)
- papachito 16y ago
  > This age limit only matters if parental controls are enabled. You can then pick which apps can be used, based on their age limit (all of them, only 17+, …). Some OS apps like Safari get extra switches – you can explicitly decide whether Safari and a few other things can be used or not. Thanks I know how it works, no matter how you put it, limiting browsing the net to +17 year old is ridiculous and actually bad, the internet is the greatest resource for students. > By the way, how do parental controls work on Android? I’m really curious! There is none, and that's the way it should be, parental control should be done by... parents, not Steve Jobs. If you have porn addictions like this guy you can still remove the browser, youtube and marketplace apps though: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46ddfa061bbed38b&hl=en http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?... Edit: parental control is password protected on the iPhone, but it can be undone by a reset of the phone, which any kid can do, so it's pretty useless anyway.
  - ugh 16y ago
    Sigh, I guess.
  - masklinn 16y ago
    > There is none, and that's the way it should be, parental control should be done by... parents, not Steve Jobs. Parental control is done by parents, they're merely given tools. If parents don't want those tools, they can just opt not to use them.

ugh 16y ago

You can download this app no matter how old you are. It will show a warning dialog but you can just dismiss that and download anyway. This age limit only matters if parental controls are enabled. You can then pick which apps can be used, based on their age limit (all of them, only 17+, …). Some OS apps like Safari get extra switches – you can explicitly decide whether Safari and a few other things can be used or not. Age limits are not always the best solution, though (what some parents deem appropriate, others do not). That’s why I think the parental controls are badly designed. Ideally you would get a switch for every app, so that you can override the age based defaults. Such a list would still be pretty horrible from a UI point of view – all your apps replicated in one unstructured list – that’s probably why Apple doesn’t do it. Or maybe they just had no time to implement that feature, yet. Either way, it’s no big deal. How would you rate a browser, know that you know how the iPhone’s parental controls work? You can access content with it that a vast majority of parents would consider 17+. (By the way, how do parental controls work on Android? I’m really curious!)

papachito 16y ago
> This age limit only matters if parental controls are enabled. You can then pick which apps can be used, based on their age limit (all of them, only 17+, …). Some OS apps like Safari get extra switches – you can explicitly decide whether Safari and a few other things can be used or not. Thanks I know how it works, no matter how you put it, limiting browsing the net to +17 year old is ridiculous and actually bad, the internet is the greatest resource for students. > By the way, how do parental controls work on Android? I’m really curious! There is none, and that's the way it should be, parental control should be done by... parents, not Steve Jobs. If you have porn addictions like this guy you can still remove the browser, youtube and marketplace apps though: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46ddfa061bbed38b&hl=en http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?... Edit: parental control is password protected on the iPhone, but it can be undone by a reset of the phone, which any kid can do, so it's pretty useless anyway.
- ugh 16y ago
  Sigh, I guess.
- masklinn 16y ago
  > There is none, and that's the way it should be, parental control should be done by... parents, not Steve Jobs. Parental control is done by parents, they're merely given tools. If parents don't want those tools, they can just opt not to use them.