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Yes, nanny-state, authoritarianism is part of the socialist ideological grouping. Socialists have always advocated the state making little, "lifestyle" decisio

Yes, nanny-state, authoritarianism is part of the socialist ideological grouping. Socialists have always advocated the state making little, "lifestyle" decisions like this. The state "knows better", and you have lots of people agreeing. Look at the top comment and its children comments on this story. You have people applauding this law and saying that people are too stupid to know when to not get a refill. These are the same people that wring their hands about Trump being an authoritarian, but applaud stupid, nanny state laws like this.

realusername 10y ago
Fighting for better health is authoritarianism now? that's a new one. I did not hear that argument when countries are raising cigarette taxes. Australia with one of the highest cigarette tax is also a socialist country then? The laissez faire regarding food in the US does not seem to work very well since the US is one of the worst developed country regarding obesity.
- drdaeman 10y ago
  State imposing its rules (state authority) over peoples' own decisions (personal freedoms) is authoritarian-leaning, by the definition of how things are on the authoritarian-libertarian axis. Of course it doesn't make state authoritarian, but adding points towards that direction on that axis.
- paulddraper 10y ago
  > Fighting for better health is authoritarianism now? that's a new one. No definition of authoritarianism has ever defined there to be good or bad motivations for the laws, just that they are strict and limit personal freedom. > did not hear that argument when countries are raising cigarette taxes. You haven't?!? Then what arguments against raising cigarette taxes have you heard?
Oletros 10y ago
It is funny the people that see "socialists" everywhere
stinos 10y ago
The state "knows better", and you have lots of people agreeing. Doesn't obesity prove, in this case, the state really does know better? You could argue people are free to be as obese as they want, but only knowingly imo. The actual problem is a lot of people don't realize they're basically being tricked into unhealthy obese living by MegaCorps wanting to get them hooked on their product.
- davidivadavid 10y ago
  Does it? For there to be a proof of any kind, you'd have to see what impact the ban is going to have, surely?
  - stinos 10y ago
    Hmm, got me there. I indeed cannot predict how tis will turn out.
- MarcusBrutus 10y ago
  It gives me a very warm feeling to know that those simpletons now have you to care for them and prevent other people from taking advantage of them. I do hope they show some appreciation for your efforts on their behalf.

realusername 10y ago

Fighting for better health is authoritarianism now? that's a new one. I did not hear that argument when countries are raising cigarette taxes. Australia with one of the highest cigarette tax is also a socialist country then? The laissez faire regarding food in the US does not seem to work very well since the US is one of the worst developed country regarding obesity.

drdaeman 10y ago
State imposing its rules (state authority) over peoples' own decisions (personal freedoms) is authoritarian-leaning, by the definition of how things are on the authoritarian-libertarian axis. Of course it doesn't make state authoritarian, but adding points towards that direction on that axis.
paulddraper 10y ago
> Fighting for better health is authoritarianism now? that's a new one. No definition of authoritarianism has ever defined there to be good or bad motivations for the laws, just that they are strict and limit personal freedom. > did not hear that argument when countries are raising cigarette taxes. You haven't?!? Then what arguments against raising cigarette taxes have you heard?

Oletros 10y ago

It is funny the people that see "socialists" everywhere

stinos 10y ago

The state "knows better", and you have lots of people agreeing. Doesn't obesity prove, in this case, the state really does know better? You could argue people are free to be as obese as they want, but only knowingly imo. The actual problem is a lot of people don't realize they're basically being tricked into unhealthy obese living by MegaCorps wanting to get them hooked on their product.

davidivadavid 10y ago
Does it? For there to be a proof of any kind, you'd have to see what impact the ban is going to have, surely?
- stinos 10y ago
  Hmm, got me there. I indeed cannot predict how tis will turn out.
MarcusBrutus 10y ago
It gives me a very warm feeling to know that those simpletons now have you to care for them and prevent other people from taking advantage of them. I do hope they show some appreciation for your efforts on their behalf.