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Is there info about social status. Because Trump should be on his deathbed now and Obama must be already very very sick. And generally speaking successful poli

Is there info about social status. Because Trump should be on his deathbed now and Obama must be already very very sick. And generally speaking successful politicians live long. Castro, Mugabe... And they did had a lot of adversaries. And won against the odds.

redmaverick 10y ago
That was exactly what was going through my mind. Trump basically fought and won against the GOP establishment, the democrats, media and the pollsters and made it. He is still at war with the media and the world at large still hates him. He seems pretty unperturbed though.
- Retric 10y ago
  Lot's of stress over a decade is not what this is studying. Suppose he aged 20% faster for 2 or 10 years that's simply not a big deal. However aging 20% faster for 50 years is.
- oculusthrift 10y ago
  it's the cocaine that makes him seem unperturbed
  - jjawssd 10y ago
    He would be dead by now if he did coke because coke accelerates cellular mechanisms for aging For example, cocaine and alcohol addiction are associated with robust alterations in sleep architecture, including disturbances in slow-wave sleep and rapid eye movement (REM), which has implications for several age-related diseases, since sleep contributes to the homeostatic regulation of the neuroendocrine and immune systems. src: http://dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/researchmaterial/2016/IsbiologicalageingacceleratedindrugaddictionVolkowKlein2017.pdf http://dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/researc...
    - adventured 10y ago
      This is a certainty. Based on the damage cocaine causes, had Trump been a long-term user of cocaine, he'd have likely died 10 or 20 years ago. I say long-term, because based on his status in the late 1970s and 1980s, it would be far more likely that were he a user, he'd have started back then and continued to use. Very unlikely he would still be walking around and performing as well as he is at 70.
- leereeves 10y ago
  Trump seems to enjoy the fight; I wonder if he finds it stressful.
  - Applejinx 10y ago
    If you start with a massive inheritance, to some extent that will diminish the stress. Bathing in gold-plated bathtubs also cuts stress, and grabbing felines because you can. One could argue that a black American would have great difficulty taking advantage of these stress reliefs.
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Can we put aside the partisan attacks and have a rational discussion here on Hacker News? In that spirit, I think you're wrong about inherited wealth, gold, and women who "let you do it" being unavailable to black Americans. A small number of people of both races have access to these things.
      - sg47 10y ago
        I don't understand how that was a partisan attack. Are you saying he didn't grab women's genitals?
        leereeves 10y ago
        Apparently we can't put that topic aside to discuss campaign stress making candidates sick. I called it a partisan attack because, prompted by the mere mention of Trump's name, that comment pulled the conversation so far off topic for no reason other than to attack Trump.
      - yarou 10y ago
        I agree that people, regardless of race, can end up ranking pretty high on the ladder of Western society. However, it's pretty disingenuous to suggest that everyone starts out in the same position on that ladder.
- davidf18 10y ago
  Interestingly, Trump doesn't drink alcohol (his older brother had died of alcoholism).
tomascot 10y ago
I guess a psychopath shouldn't show the same level of aging as "normal" people.
nostrademons 10y ago
Look at pictures of recent presidents when they enter office and when they leave office: https://newsandfroyo.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/why-the-draft-warren-movement-needs-to-end/ https://newsandfroyo.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/why-the-draft-... (Ignore the article, I just picked it because they've already collected before & after photos of each of the last 4 presidents.)
- refurb 10y ago
  I always find those pictures a little suspect. First, except for Obama, the first picture is a nicely choreographed headshot (make up?) and the second is a candid photo with no attempt to make the person look good. Second, except for Bush'88, all of those Presidents were in office for 8 years. I don't know about you, but I'm not surprised a person in their later years looks older almost a decade later. My Mom was never President, but she looks much older when she was 60 vs. 52.

redmaverick 10y ago

That was exactly what was going through my mind. Trump basically fought and won against the GOP establishment, the democrats, media and the pollsters and made it. He is still at war with the media and the world at large still hates him. He seems pretty unperturbed though.

Retric 10y ago
Lot's of stress over a decade is not what this is studying. Suppose he aged 20% faster for 2 or 10 years that's simply not a big deal. However aging 20% faster for 50 years is.
oculusthrift 10y ago
it's the cocaine that makes him seem unperturbed
- jjawssd 10y ago
  He would be dead by now if he did coke because coke accelerates cellular mechanisms for aging For example, cocaine and alcohol addiction are associated with robust alterations in sleep architecture, including disturbances in slow-wave sleep and rapid eye movement (REM), which has implications for several age-related diseases, since sleep contributes to the homeostatic regulation of the neuroendocrine and immune systems. src: http://dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/researchmaterial/2016/IsbiologicalageingacceleratedindrugaddictionVolkowKlein2017.pdf http://dalgarnoinstitute.org.au/images/resources/pdf/researc...
  - adventured 10y ago
    This is a certainty. Based on the damage cocaine causes, had Trump been a long-term user of cocaine, he'd have likely died 10 or 20 years ago. I say long-term, because based on his status in the late 1970s and 1980s, it would be far more likely that were he a user, he'd have started back then and continued to use. Very unlikely he would still be walking around and performing as well as he is at 70.
leereeves 10y ago
Trump seems to enjoy the fight; I wonder if he finds it stressful.
- Applejinx 10y ago
  If you start with a massive inheritance, to some extent that will diminish the stress. Bathing in gold-plated bathtubs also cuts stress, and grabbing felines because you can. One could argue that a black American would have great difficulty taking advantage of these stress reliefs.
  - leereeves 10y ago
    Can we put aside the partisan attacks and have a rational discussion here on Hacker News? In that spirit, I think you're wrong about inherited wealth, gold, and women who "let you do it" being unavailable to black Americans. A small number of people of both races have access to these things.
    - sg47 10y ago
      I don't understand how that was a partisan attack. Are you saying he didn't grab women's genitals?
      - leereeves 10y ago
        Apparently we can't put that topic aside to discuss campaign stress making candidates sick. I called it a partisan attack because, prompted by the mere mention of Trump's name, that comment pulled the conversation so far off topic for no reason other than to attack Trump.
    - yarou 10y ago
      I agree that people, regardless of race, can end up ranking pretty high on the ladder of Western society. However, it's pretty disingenuous to suggest that everyone starts out in the same position on that ladder.
davidf18 10y ago
Interestingly, Trump doesn't drink alcohol (his older brother had died of alcoholism).

tomascot 10y ago

I guess a psychopath shouldn't show the same level of aging as "normal" people.

nostrademons 10y ago

Look at pictures of recent presidents when they enter office and when they leave office: https://newsandfroyo.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/why-the-draft-warren-movement-needs-to-end/ https://newsandfroyo.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/why-the-draft-... (Ignore the article, I just picked it because they've already collected before & after photos of each of the last 4 presidents.)

refurb 10y ago
I always find those pictures a little suspect. First, except for Obama, the first picture is a nicely choreographed headshot (make up?) and the second is a candid photo with no attempt to make the person look good. Second, except for Bush'88, all of those Presidents were in office for 8 years. I don't know about you, but I'm not surprised a person in their later years looks older almost a decade later. My Mom was never President, but she looks much older when she was 60 vs. 52.