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For everyone else wondering what the catch is: the number of outgoing mails is limited (100/day for the $4 tier).

by splitbrain 10y ago

tracker1 10y ago
Which for someone with several hobby domains, but one person is fine... the standard tier isn't a huge expense either.
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  Also if that is a concern for you, a postfix server on a $5 digital ocean droplet will allow you to send any number of emails.
  - dest 10y ago
    but what about their deliverability / spam score?
    - cmdrfred 10y ago
      You get a dedicated IP only for you. Never had a problem in the past 2 years or so.
      - dest 10y ago
        This is good. What I meant is that you have to check your IP reputation by yourself, while this provider does it for you (if I understand correctly), hence an extra charge
        captn3m0 10y ago
        Beware that Digital Ocean blocks all traffic for outbound SMTP on floating IPs: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/floating-ip-gateway-as-default-router-and-source-address-for-outbound-connections?comment=49891 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/floating-ip... This pretty much breaks the entire usecase, as you cannot build an IP reputation.
        cmdrfred 10y ago
        Floating IP's are not the same as the dedicated IP you get from the VM itself. I've been sending outbound on that for the better part of 2 years. To the other point, if you have a problem with spam scores, you are probably sending too much mail for this sort of solution (consider Mailgun 10,000 emails/month for free). For an individual it is fine, not for use as a mailing list. A clean IP address (every IP I've ever tried was clean), DKIM, and SPF will allow you to hit pretty much anybody. It might take a few people pulling you out of spam on gmail before you can send to them, but I think that's true of any new mailserver.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    Then it becomes my job to keep said system, anti-spam settings, etc updated... I don't want to do that work... Frankly if I didn't have to work for a living, I'd start a new open-source mail system that didn't suck. I typically don't send more than 40 emails a day. But have several domains I would like to have email for... paying $10/address is a bit steep to say the least for that use case.
    - cmdrfred 10y ago
      Here's my anti spam solution. I created an entire domain for it with a catch all address. When I sign up for a service I use service-name@domain.com, if I get a lot of spam I reject mail for that address at the server. You are paying for convenience here.
aswerty 10y ago
Unless you're automating emails surely that's plenty? Or do multiple recipients on an single email each count towards the limit? I can't say email limits are ever something I've thought about.

For everyone else wondering what the catch is: the number of outgoing mails is limited (100/day for the $4 tier).

tracker1 10y ago

Which for someone with several hobby domains, but one person is fine... the standard tier isn't a huge expense either.

cmdrfred 10y ago
Also if that is a concern for you, a postfix server on a $5 digital ocean droplet will allow you to send any number of emails.
- dest 10y ago
  but what about their deliverability / spam score?
  - cmdrfred 10y ago
    You get a dedicated IP only for you. Never had a problem in the past 2 years or so.
    - dest 10y ago
      This is good. What I meant is that you have to check your IP reputation by yourself, while this provider does it for you (if I understand correctly), hence an extra charge
      - captn3m0 10y ago
        Beware that Digital Ocean blocks all traffic for outbound SMTP on floating IPs: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/floating-ip-gateway-as-default-router-and-source-address-for-outbound-connections?comment=49891 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/floating-ip... This pretty much breaks the entire usecase, as you cannot build an IP reputation.
        cmdrfred 10y ago
        Floating IP's are not the same as the dedicated IP you get from the VM itself. I've been sending outbound on that for the better part of 2 years. To the other point, if you have a problem with spam scores, you are probably sending too much mail for this sort of solution (consider Mailgun 10,000 emails/month for free). For an individual it is fine, not for use as a mailing list. A clean IP address (every IP I've ever tried was clean), DKIM, and SPF will allow you to hit pretty much anybody. It might take a few people pulling you out of spam on gmail before you can send to them, but I think that's true of any new mailserver.
- tracker1 10y ago
  Then it becomes my job to keep said system, anti-spam settings, etc updated... I don't want to do that work... Frankly if I didn't have to work for a living, I'd start a new open-source mail system that didn't suck. I typically don't send more than 40 emails a day. But have several domains I would like to have email for... paying $10/address is a bit steep to say the least for that use case.
  - cmdrfred 10y ago
    Here's my anti spam solution. I created an entire domain for it with a catch all address. When I sign up for a service I use service-name@domain.com, if I get a lot of spam I reject mail for that address at the server. You are paying for convenience here.

aswerty 10y ago

Unless you're automating emails surely that's plenty? Or do multiple recipients on an single email each count towards the limit? I can't say email limits are ever something I've thought about.