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Female chess players forced to wear hijab at world championship in Iran
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- 11thEarlOfMar 10y agoIs there an example of a social norm that is acceptable in Iran, but would get you jailed in, say, Germany?
- fred_is_fred 10y agoStoning someone to death? Supporting terrorism? Plenty others I figure.
- gonvaled 10y agoSelling guns? Waterboarding? Bombing countries? Detaining people without due process? Of the top of my head.
- throwaway37993 10y agoAbuse of women? Raping your own wife etc.
- quirkafleeg 10y ago+4 karma so far (within 25 minutes of the account creation) for objectively stupid, offensive garbage like this. Unreal.
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- mkaziz 10y agoWearing a burkini would get you in trouble in France, I hear.
- aikah 10y ago> Wearing a burkini would get you in trouble in France, I hear. No, these city laws have been struck down by a higher authority. You can't wear a burka or a niqab though I still see women wearing that stuff in Paris suburbs, granted in places where 90% of the population is muslim and no non-muslim would dare live in.
- candiodari 10y agoSsh, the worldview of half of hacker news depends on believing that such neighbourhoods in Paris, or any other European city, are inclusive and tolerant, as opposed to the violently racist attitude you find there in reality. After all immigrants good, "that" religion good, it's all the fault of Mr. Trump, capiche ?
- jimmywanger 10y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering Yup. In France. Yet they're agitating.
- aikah 10y agoAre we talking about social norms or the law in Iran ? because they are not the same thing. Are women required to cover their head in public in Iran, by law?
- jimmywanger 10y agohttp://www.mei.edu/content/article/irans-headscarf-politics http://www.mei.edu/content/article/irans-headscarf-politics No, it's a law. You don't just get the side-eye, you might serve some time.
- threeseed 10y agoNot sure why this is being posted on HN but anyway. Iran like all countries have certain cultural norms. I am not allowed to chew gum in Singapore. I am not allowed to drink alcohol publicly in places like Dubai. I am not allowed to smoke outside in the city in parts of Australia. I am not allowed to wear full body swimsuits in parts of France. Welcome to the world.
- tmptmp 10y ago>>Iran like all countries have certain cultural norms. I am not allowed to chew gum in Singapore. I am not allowed to drink alcohol publicly in places like Dubai. I am not allowed to smoke outside in the city in parts of Australia. I am not allowed to wear full body swimsuits in parts of France. Welcome to the world. Need to change slightly. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to chew gum in Singapore. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to drink alcohol publicly in places like Dubai. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to smoke outside in the city in parts of Australia. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to wear full body swimsuits in parts of France. Welcome to the world. But I, only because am a woman, and because the barbaric Islamic sharia law treats women as second class citizens, have to wear hijab/burqa in Iran (or other Islmaic country). Welcome to Islam. edit: typo
- toomanybeersies 10y agoBecause I am a man, I am allowed to be topless outside in NYC. I wouldn't if I was a woman. The hijab worn in Iran is a lot less restrictive than the hijab worn in a lost of other Muslim countries. I would join in the outrage if the chess players were forced to wear a niqab, but requiring people to wear a loose headscarf is hardly oppression of the worst degree.
- arcanus 10y ago> hardly oppression of the worst degree. The symbolism is what is important. A government that tells you what to dress will certainly not stop with benign restrictions.
- aaron695 10y agoCan a female from Papua New Guinea play without wearing a shirt in the "ultra religious" country of the USA?
- rch 10y agoIn Boulder, yes; absolutely.
- 11thEarlOfMar 10y agoYup, and no one got arrested in San Francisco, either (SFW, but barely): http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Go-Topless-Day-sf-nude-nudity-raelians-naked-9177555.php http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Go-Topless-Day-sf-nude-nu...
- ars 10y ago> (SFW, but barely) Isn't that exactly the point? By your own choice of words it's clear it's not culturally acceptable in the US and Europe, (except for specially designated areas/specially designated times).
- chucksmash 10y agoAccording to [1], the answer seems to be yes by and large. [1]: http://gotopless.org/topless-laws http://gotopless.org/topless-laws
- aaron695 10y agoI think we all know in practice they would be arrested in most states, even if there were no eventual charges. (Similar to what would happen in Iran)
- helthanatos 10y agoI'd say a lot of people need to dress better... Half the time I can't tell if a female is even wearing bottom clothes because they are so short... I don't believe a hijab is necessary clothing, but it would be intelligent to dress (modestly) to avoid being "offensive" Dress to attempt to avoid rape or being taken or anything that people may be tempted to do...
- sremani 10y agoThis is not appropriate. Iran should not have demanded any of this crap. This is beyond objectionable. If you are hosting a world event, you adjust to the norms of the world not the other way round. I am amazed there are apologists for this kind of behavior and top of it turning it into criticism of America.
- rzhikharevich 10y agoSounds completely illogical to me. So why don't they force the participants to convert to Islam then, if they want them to conform to its dogmas anyways?
- luzvioleta 10y agoWhy the hell is this flagged?
- Sideloader 10y agoRebel Media, the publishers of this piece, is Ezra Levant's project. He's a Canadian far-right agitator/performance artist with a particular hate on for Muslims. His shtick is OTT whining about Muslims and "leftists". He did, however, expose Canada's draconian quasi-judicial speech "police" as the totalitarian farce it is, so kudos for that. But for the most part he is pushing an agenda and his fact checking is...slightly biased. Just thought I'd mention that as this type of overt political stuff is usually frowned upon at HN.