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I read the whole drama bomb which could be a high school aged spat as easily as the adults involved in the Tor project, but this stood out: >To be clear I beli

by parfe 10y ago

I read the whole drama bomb which could be a high school aged spat as easily as the adults involved in the Tor project, but this stood out: >To be clear I believe Jake has hurt people (which he has admitted himself) and didn't respect people's boundaries. I do not believe he is a rapist or a harasser and I am wondering what the people who started this campaign are trying to achieve. Admitting he's abusive and ignores boundaries while at the same time saying that behavior isn't harassing or rape is some Grade A dissonance. There wasn't some conspiracy. This woman even admits the guy hurts people and disrespects boundaries. The fact she doesn't have specific details about a rape or other harassment is irrelevant. She knows the guy has hurt others, and then thinks there is a campaign allied against him? I'd want any person like she describes removed from any communities I belong to, and not surprised the Tor Project decided the same.

gozur88 10y ago
>Admitting he's abusive and ignores boundaries while at the same time saying that behavior isn't harassing or rape is some Grade A dissonance. That depends entirely on what she means by "ignores boundaries".
x3n0ph3n3 10y ago
Hurting someone and being abusive are not the same. It also doesn't specify they he ignored physical boundaries (could he have been too clingy?)
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Hurting someone and being abusive are not the same. Disrespecting boundaries and being abusive are the same. What boundaries differentiates between emotional and physical abuse, and in some cases between whether the abuse is merely an ethical issue or actually a legal issue, as well.
unethical_ban 10y ago
FTFY: This woman even admits the guy hurt people and disrespected boundaries.
throvwawvay 10y ago
I can see it now, two co-workers complaining that the boss is being abusive, demanding unpaid overtime and ignoring boundaries for what should be a healthy work environment. The boss completely raped them. Wouldn't it be nice if the company created an public attack site and force the boss and any family they might have into permanent hiding, even go as far as attack their home? Maybe do a campaign to have the boss and family cut off from any social environment, and make sure to teach any past friends that they can either chose to join the mob or be cut out too. Reminds me of certain type of religious groups that have concept of "shunning"...
gdy 10y ago
You've just hurt "that woman" by writing this. Maybe you should be "removed" from this community?

by parfe 10y ago

gozur88 10y ago

>Admitting he's abusive and ignores boundaries while at the same time saying that behavior isn't harassing or rape is some Grade A dissonance. That depends entirely on what she means by "ignores boundaries".

x3n0ph3n3 10y ago

Hurting someone and being abusive are not the same. It also doesn't specify they he ignored physical boundaries (could he have been too clingy?)

dragonwriter 10y ago
> Hurting someone and being abusive are not the same. Disrespecting boundaries and being abusive are the same. What boundaries differentiates between emotional and physical abuse, and in some cases between whether the abuse is merely an ethical issue or actually a legal issue, as well.

unethical_ban 10y ago

FTFY: This woman even admits the guy hurt people and disrespected boundaries.

throvwawvay 10y ago

I can see it now, two co-workers complaining that the boss is being abusive, demanding unpaid overtime and ignoring boundaries for what should be a healthy work environment. The boss completely raped them. Wouldn't it be nice if the company created an public attack site and force the boss and any family they might have into permanent hiding, even go as far as attack their home? Maybe do a campaign to have the boss and family cut off from any social environment, and make sure to teach any past friends that they can either chose to join the mob or be cut out too. Reminds me of certain type of religious groups that have concept of "shunning"...

gdy 10y ago

You've just hurt "that woman" by writing this. Maybe you should be "removed" from this community?