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We know that Twitter makes money off the search deals with Google and Bing, and it's a lot more than $5 million.

axod 17y ago
And it could disappear in a second. idk. Big money deals with a single or maybe 2 customers is insanely high risk. How do we know how much they make from their deals? How do you know it's more than $5m?
- breck 17y ago
  > And it could disappear in a second. How so? I'm guessing they have contracts, and MSFT and GOOG aren't the type to renege on their signed deals.
  - axod 17y ago
    I just mean that they could both decide to cancel the contracts when not beneficial for them to do so any more. Say buzz takes off (don't laugh). I'd just rather have millions of paying customers (advertising) than 2 customers.
    - davidedicillo 17y ago
      Yes, and Twitter could start hosting images. Nothing is safe and eternal.
      - axod 17y ago
        Most people don't use Twitter.com they use 3rd party clients, so twitters control is limited.
marketer 17y ago
Yeah, they're just selling different levels of access to their data stream. Besides the firehose, they have streams of things like all links and retweets, which require some kind of partnership.
blhack 17y ago
It's about $25 Million a year.
- axod 17y ago
  Of course the other factor: Twitter: funding $160m, you say rev $25m Twitpic: funding $0, rev $5m So I think twitpic comes out pretty fantastically well.
  - jfarmer 17y ago
    That's daft. Funding isn't a liability (in the financial sense), and those numbers don't say anything about growth prospects.
    - axod 17y ago
      It'll be interesting to see how Twitter grow their revenue. The number of customers who will pay $m's to do a deal seems reasonably small.
  - blhack 17y ago
    Fantastic point. In terms of scaling, how much larger is twitter than twitpic? $160 Million larger?
  - johnrob 17y ago
    For me, the most amazing thing is the "time to hockey stick": Friday night he starts hacking, and by Monday it's getting blogged about and going viral. That is an amazingly short amount of time to build something people want. Most of us have to iterate a long time to achieve that.
  - rythie 17y ago
    That's in the short term of course. Twitpic is essentially a feature on top of Twitter and without Twitter, Twitpic wouldn't exist. In the end, if Twitter implemented picture hosting themselves, Twitpic would surely slowly die.
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axod 17y ago

And it could disappear in a second. idk. Big money deals with a single or maybe 2 customers is insanely high risk. How do we know how much they make from their deals? How do you know it's more than $5m?

breck 17y ago
> And it could disappear in a second. How so? I'm guessing they have contracts, and MSFT and GOOG aren't the type to renege on their signed deals.
- axod 17y ago
  I just mean that they could both decide to cancel the contracts when not beneficial for them to do so any more. Say buzz takes off (don't laugh). I'd just rather have millions of paying customers (advertising) than 2 customers.
  - davidedicillo 17y ago
    Yes, and Twitter could start hosting images. Nothing is safe and eternal.
    - axod 17y ago
      Most people don't use Twitter.com they use 3rd party clients, so twitters control is limited.

marketer 17y ago

Yeah, they're just selling different levels of access to their data stream. Besides the firehose, they have streams of things like all links and retweets, which require some kind of partnership.

blhack 17y ago

It's about $25 Million a year.

axod 17y ago
Of course the other factor: Twitter: funding $160m, you say rev $25m Twitpic: funding $0, rev $5m So I think twitpic comes out pretty fantastically well.
- jfarmer 17y ago
  That's daft. Funding isn't a liability (in the financial sense), and those numbers don't say anything about growth prospects.
  - axod 17y ago
    It'll be interesting to see how Twitter grow their revenue. The number of customers who will pay $m's to do a deal seems reasonably small.
- blhack 17y ago
  Fantastic point. In terms of scaling, how much larger is twitter than twitpic? $160 Million larger?
- johnrob 17y ago
  For me, the most amazing thing is the "time to hockey stick": Friday night he starts hacking, and by Monday it's getting blogged about and going viral. That is an amazingly short amount of time to build something people want. Most of us have to iterate a long time to achieve that.
- rythie 17y ago
  That's in the short term of course. Twitpic is essentially a feature on top of Twitter and without Twitter, Twitpic wouldn't exist. In the end, if Twitter implemented picture hosting themselves, Twitpic would surely slowly die.
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