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I am afraid it would cost $2M to try to pay back $1.7M... i think they should first spend their time and $$ in making sure they fix the issues going forward.

by klean92 10y ago

newjersey 10y ago
Find the money somewhere. Take it out of the police chief's pay for all I care. In fact, I don't think just returning the money is enough. The money should be returned with interest as if it were put into a municipal bond. The worst part is that every time this happens, the taxpayers are on the hook. I think nothing will change as long as wrong decisions doesn't hurt the decision-makers. I don't know how to implement this but something has to give. When in doubt, officers should err on the side of not writing tickets. Unrelated but our police officers need stronger protection from the insanity of things like quotas. Make it immensely profitable for an officer to whistleblow situations where they are required to collect $n in fines or write n tickets. Make it a federal law and take that money ($10MM per incidence per officer sounds like a good start, the point is it has to be high enough that there won't be peer pressure for an officer to "get in line") from the department. If they can't pay, too bad. The municipality/county doesn't deserve a police force.
RealGeek 10y ago
> I am afraid it would cost $2M to try to pay back $1.7M How much did it cost them to issue tickets and collect that $1.7 million? Do they use the same logic while issuing tickets and collecting fines?
marincounty 10y ago
Make them pay from the top down. Don't decimate a department, but make it sting. Make it sting so much, cops/meter maids know their municipal codes/law to the tee. It's not even about laws? We all know it's about revenue collection. That's why we are a bit miffed. I think the bigger problem is how many of us have been pulled over for no reason, ticketed for no reason, harrrased for no reason, paid a huge fee--that was for all reasonable purposes was unconstitutional--someting about ureasonable fees, or fines. Some admendment that has been forgotten about because it's been so abused. See, we are not upset over this little incident. We are projecting our outrage over being trampled upon for years. Our only recourse has been showing up in court, and we all know how that goes, "Well I'm sorry sir. I see no reason to question the officer."
michaelmrose 10y ago
Nobody cares how much more it costs you to do the right thing after the fact. Example paying a parking meter.
throwaway2048 10y ago
I wonder if they would accept this excuse after I "forgot" to pay a parking meter.
kika 10y ago
If I steal $200 worth of booze from the store they will spend thousands if not tens of thousand to prosecute me. Using this logic they should just take my apology and let me go with the booze.

I am afraid it would cost $2M to try to pay back $1.7M... i think they should first spend their time and $$ in making sure they fix the issues going forward.

by klean92 10y ago

I am afraid it would cost $2M to try to pay back $1.7M... i think they should first spend their time and $$ in making sure they fix the issues going forward.

newjersey 10y ago

Find the money somewhere. Take it out of the police chief's pay for all I care. In fact, I don't think just returning the money is enough. The money should be returned with interest as if it were put into a municipal bond. The worst part is that every time this happens, the taxpayers are on the hook. I think nothing will change as long as wrong decisions doesn't hurt the decision-makers. I don't know how to implement this but something has to give. When in doubt, officers should err on the side of not writing tickets. Unrelated but our police officers need stronger protection from the insanity of things like quotas. Make it immensely profitable for an officer to whistleblow situations where they are required to collect $n in fines or write n tickets. Make it a federal law and take that money ($10MM per incidence per officer sounds like a good start, the point is it has to be high enough that there won't be peer pressure for an officer to "get in line") from the department. If they can't pay, too bad. The municipality/county doesn't deserve a police force.

RealGeek 10y ago

> I am afraid it would cost $2M to try to pay back $1.7M How much did it cost them to issue tickets and collect that $1.7 million? Do they use the same logic while issuing tickets and collecting fines?

marincounty 10y ago

Make them pay from the top down. Don't decimate a department, but make it sting. Make it sting so much, cops/meter maids know their municipal codes/law to the tee. It's not even about laws? We all know it's about revenue collection. That's why we are a bit miffed. I think the bigger problem is how many of us have been pulled over for no reason, ticketed for no reason, harrrased for no reason, paid a huge fee--that was for all reasonable purposes was unconstitutional--someting about ureasonable fees, or fines. Some admendment that has been forgotten about because it's been so abused. See, we are not upset over this little incident. We are projecting our outrage over being trampled upon for years. Our only recourse has been showing up in court, and we all know how that goes, "Well I'm sorry sir. I see no reason to question the officer."

michaelmrose 10y ago

Nobody cares how much more it costs you to do the right thing after the fact. Example paying a parking meter.

throwaway2048 10y ago

I wonder if they would accept this excuse after I "forgot" to pay a parking meter.

kika 10y ago

If I steal $200 worth of booze from the store they will spend thousands if not tens of thousand to prosecute me. Using this logic they should just take my apology and let me go with the booze.