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steveklabnik
14d ago
Doesn’t really change it at all. Because there’s no copyright assignment, it’s not any different than any other open source project that doesn’t do it, there’s no ownership to actually move. It would just be about socially what is considere
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steveklabnik
14d ago
Various git commands can drop the metadata, so it’s not guaranteed to stick around.
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14d ago
It gives Google the ability to use the source code under whatever terms they want. It does not change the Apache licensed code at all, which can still always be used under that license. There is no “the jj organization”.
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14d ago
It’s a usage pattern, not a feature. It’s a really common way of working with jj: https://steveklabnik.github.io/jujutsu-tutorial/real-world-w...
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15d ago
Legal ownership does not belong to a single company. All copyrights are still held by each individual contributor, and they're available to be used under the Apache 2 license. The CLA means Google also has a license to the code to do
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15d ago
Oops you’re not wrong, there’s just a lot of comments and it’s hard to keep threads straight, my bad :)
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15d ago
We’ll find out!
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15d ago
Thanks man :)
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15d ago
While this is true and I agree with you, to be clear we do way more than just a nice UX. There is a lot of deep technical work going on here. If anything the UX isn’t the selling point, we are an infrastructure company at heart.
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15d ago
Yes. Stacked diffs are table stakes.
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15d ago
Yes, he joined a few months ago, this is just getting it onto the site :)
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15d ago
We tested it in mobile, but several people pointed out that we have more performance work to do to make sure that the animation is fast on lower-end hardware. I don't know what phone you're using, but we'll get it fixed regar
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15d ago
While this is true, we do care about performance tremendously, and the animation not having good performance cuts against that, so I think it's a very fair criticism. Paying attention to details matters.
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15d ago
Thanks! Yes, it's important to realize that git is multiple things: the on-disk repo format, the CLI, and the wire protocol. Each has their own challenges, just like any project, but they can be tackled independently. But at the end of
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15d ago
I joined ERSC ten months ago! The things I am most interested in right now are jj and llms. And the intersection between the two. I'm thinking a lot these days about how agentic development is changing our industry, with source control
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15d ago
I like to compare Google and jj to Mozilla and Rust: Google employed Martin and some other maintainers, but it's always been an OSS project under the Apache 2.0 license. That being said, there's a few things that lead to this perc
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15d ago
Thanks, I'm a Windows user and use Chrome myself, and on my machine it works great, but it's a pretty beefy box. I mentioned this downthread to someone else, but I've filed a bug internally and we'll make sure that it&#x
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I left a lengthy comment below about how we'll be supporting git as well. I have been a member of this community for a very long time. Posting here is something I just do. jj is already pretty well known here, there's articles abo
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15d ago
Thanks! I don't have Opera installed on my Win11 machine, but I tried it in Edge and it's barely using anything, but I realize that I have something beefier than a shared GPU on it. I've filed a bug internally and we'll
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15d ago
We are not actively hiring at the moment, but will be in the future for sure.
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15d ago
There is active work in this area, yes! https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj/issues/3386 is the bug tracking the feature request, and there have been some recent PRs working on implementing this, see here for one exa
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What is your browser/OS combo? Thank you for bringing it up, we can only fix things that we hear about, so I appreciate knowing that something is off.
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What is your browser/OS combo? I am assuming it's the animation, we tested it thoroughly but there can always be bugs. Thank you for bringing it up!
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15d ago
It's in the post, but Martin will be continuing to work on jj itself as well as on our products, just as he did at Google, working on the open source jj but also their internal source control team. As a side note, jj has rules around c
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As we initially roll out we will be doing that, yes. The reason is that our initial offering is enterprise shaped, and so won't have a self-service onboarding. Eventually we will not require the white gloves, but you have to start some
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Not off topic! We should be respecting https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/A... . If we do not, that's a bug, and please let me know what browser/OS/whatever el
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15d ago
It's not so much that we will prevent individuals from using the product, we are just focusing feature development on the needs of companies and teams. Startups are hard, and you have to focus, and so that's where we are focusing
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This sounds glib, but I mean it sincerely: we will make money by charging money to use the product. A free tier on source control hosting is just not economically tenable nowadays. I have built a career on open source, and so that bums me o
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We have a colopholon! https://ersc.io/colophon Rust is the default language for all of our non-frontend web stuff, yes.
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I wrote a bit about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49526190 I wrote about why I joined the company back when I did previously here: https://steveklabnik.com/writing/i-see-a-future-in-jj
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