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> To be pointed about it, I have people in my family who are special needs. I myself was disruptive in school because of life circumstance. When you advocate literally for imprisoning me and members of my family, at some point I have to
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To make a couple other points: > 30 student classes obviates any benefit you'd get from anything else. There are no systems with those class sizes that are achieving the outcomes we want. I disagree? Universities have larger lecture
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I think the school->prison pipeline is a real issue, but I think a poor quality of education is a much bigger deal because smart, educated people generate exponentially more wealth since the industrial revolution. If you want what is b
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Thanks for the very thoughtful response! I admit I also get salty, particularly when it comes to education. It feels so obvious things should be a specific way, but of course that may just be my STEM person arrogance :P. So, what I'm
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I want to make it clear that the main issue is anti-epistemology. Trusting authority figures on "the science" isn't much different than trusting authority figures on "the gods", but there is a big difference between
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> You've yet to contribute good ideas or substantial new information to our discussion. Your behavior is making our group worse, and ironically if we were to follow your advice here we'd have to throw you out. Do you really bel
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> Does that make their contributions ignorant Yes > or invalid? no. I don't really understand what your point is. Are you trying to argue: > They were Christian, thus you can be a scientific genius in your time and still Chris
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Do you think there are many religious parents who choose homeschooling because it lets them reinforce their worldview? GP says he was raised in such a household, I have friends who were homeschooled for that reason. There are probably many
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I consider phrases like > It's just good to be humble. End of story. to be axiomatic declarations. My issue with these kind of axioms is they're not really necessary. You can get everything useful by only considering things tha
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Why? To someone who has given up on the education system, why should I try to fix it, instead of burning it down and remaking it in my own image?
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Can you explain why you disagree? Students have been performing worse each year, beginning a couple years before COVID. For example, scores and number of test-takers on the AMC 10/12s have decreased. Similarly, teacher retention is a
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I think to avoid arguments on the term "experts", just replace every instance of it with "so-called experts".
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I dislike this notion of "degrees" as proxies for the ability to get the job done. Why not just... interview people. Let them teach a class or two, and see how it goes. Just like with every other job.
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I think they would be the first to acknowledge they are scientifically ignorant compared to our times.
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Speak for yourself. It's highly likely that my kids will be one of those 10–15.
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I think we should focus on students already trying to be a positive influence in the school, rather than catering to the bottom quintile. After all, that is how schools got in this situation in the first place.
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> Is it the least bad place I can think of to put them? Bad for whom ? If you have the two options: (A) Bad for people causing negative externalities. (B) Bad for people causing positive externalities. I will choose the former over the
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"Rights" only exist through the will of an omnipotent force, which is an undefined concept. I think it's better to respond to ill-defined arguments with simply that: "interpretation error, argument 'right' is i
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What do you mean by "fault"? My concept of "fault" is whoever I'm going to punish to make society better. (More precisely, assume everyone has some policy `p_i` for actions they take. If a certain action `a` is bad
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The purpose for "blame" or "fault" is to know who to punish to best improve society. The "what if" and "what is" scenarios stem from treating "blame" as a mysterious entity that leads to pun
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The people you hear giving up today have tried to fix the system. It's rather insulting to insinuate otherwise.
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GP mentioned they were totally incompetent in their subject areas. It doesn't matter what medium they are transferring information through if they have no information to transfer.
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> The school system isn't perfect, and is hard to improve due to many reasons, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't try. The people you hear giving up today have tried to fix the system. It's a little insulting to insin
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Someone comes in with a gripe that the bottom quintile imposes negative externalities on their education system. Your response is that the same people impose positive externalities when they grow up. These are not the same. If they were sti
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Humility is only considered a virtue because the vast majority of people rank their abilities too high. The GP is coming from an assumption that the person is ranked higher than those around them; humbling such a person makes the rankings e
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Exactly. It's not all about you. It's best for the community to encourage education, and dragging down students who actually care about education does the opposite.
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It is impossible for an individual to do this search themself, so you have to have some global sorting. Top-down approaches include math competitions and national testing. More federated approaches include just... moving to communities wher
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> If those people have worse habits, are less motivated, less educated, less cultured, what is there to gain from it? The appearance of humility^[0]? I don't really see what there is to gain either. [0]: Autobiography of Benjamin F
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You are attacking a strawman. I think most people would agree that public schools 30 years ago were better than public schools 150 years ago. I find it much harder to believe that public schools today are better than they were 5, 10, 15, or
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Not since the industrial revolution.

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