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JackWritesCode
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Interesting take. For every star we had on GitHub we did 21 cents in monthly revenue for (around $1300). We needed to turn Fathom into a viable competitor to Google Analytics. We can't do that if we are working a few hours a week on it
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We really appreciate people like you, thank you. And on a personal level, I respect your "BREAKING THROUGH TWO PARTY POLITICS" tagline.
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Thanks for your input here, Gordon. It doesn't sound harsh at all, you clearly care about privacy regulations and you're trying to help. Ultimately, we had moved based on conversations with lawyers. But as I say, we are rolling ou
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Like I say, we've had lawyers review our docs. Even the term "fingerprinting" has more nuance to it. Fingerprinting is used as a way to attempt to set a permanent cookie / identify an individual, and their actions. We do
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Yes - Fathom Lite would need a good refactor to not use cookies.
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So strange. I've run it through multiple checkers and all of them are valid. No other issues reported, just this one.
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Yes it does - https://github.com/zgoat/goatcounter/blob/master/docs/sessio...
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Our goal is long term sustainability of privacy-focused analytics. We're achieving that. We tried to do it with the OS codebase, and the original tech guy left the project. The MRR was around $1,300 between 2 people after many months.
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We're not ignoring the guidance, it's just such a grey area when it comes to PECR / ePrivacy. Even the ICO's guidance, it talks about "cookie-like" technology. Our technology isn't cookie-like. And our pro
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Thanks so much, really appreciate the comment here :)
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Good point, heh. We're going to be improving speed of aggregation, real time dashboard, page / ref level metrics, more advanced goals and various other pieces.
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6y ago
You've been saying this since last year. If I can help you migrate off of Fathom Lite to something else, please let me know.
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Absolutely. We recommend custom domains ( https://usefathom.com/support/custom-domains ) but you could proxy through to the collector, no problem. It’s a great way of doing it
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We're not announcing anything just yet but it'll be our best release to date
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Strange. Fully valid certificate. Try hard refreshing a few times.
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Opportunity cost. Hacker News has some of the best developers in the world reading it. $100-500 / hourly rates. Why would they spend their time building & maintaining something when they could pay $140 / year for a top tier, p
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Yes, Netlify Analytics are bad. Try Fathom.
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There’s a huge shift happening. People are realizing that Google Analytics isn’t “free”. You’re sending data to a company that has a huge amount of privacy scandals. We have lots of agencies who use us, and their clients may differ from you
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Well that’s a different story then. It sounds like you measure things your own way, so I agree that analytics are pointless in your edge case. For us, we have generated a lot of revenue by measuring what works and what doesn’t. That’s why a
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For now
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GA and AWStats are both awful products for a lot of people. For us, we check out Fathom dashboard daily to see referrers and popular content. And vitality (right now we can see a ton of traffic coming from HN). When I used GA, I never check
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SA is good, and Adrian prices their services responsibility. Fathom charges $24 / month as our 2nd tier and I do believe Adrian should offer a middle tier too. But I know nothing about his business behind the scenes, so I can’t comment
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Thanks for all the kind words about https://usefathom.com . We’ve been in business since 2018 and both founders now work full time on it. We’re fully bootstrapped, actively rejecting millions of dollars in venture capital, and we
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Thanks so much, glad you had such a good experience :)
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Fathom Lite is self-hosted. Lots of people start off self-hosting but it’s typically useful for people with low traffic, or for people whose time is worth less than money, or even those who enjoy it. Because you have to maintain anything yo
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So glad you love it :)
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We’ve been building this as an option too. It’s a cool feature that a lot of people will like. Good luck
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Less companies are focusing on user level tracking, as it’s an invasion of privacy and compliance doesn’t allow it
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That means a lot, thank you. We’ve been running Farhom since 2018, and we’ve put a lot of thought into the user experience :)
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