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Dan, thanks for the feedback. - my bad, the font size in the editor is originally small. will try to fix that. - problem is that the algorithm itself is what

by sgy 11y ago

Dan, thanks for the feedback. - my bad, the font size in the editor is originally small. will try to fix that. - problem is that the algorithm itself is what makes the system strong. once revealed in a white paper, the whole thing is useless. what do you recommend to write in a text description for this case? - it's an imitation of OTP mechanism but has nothing to do with how OTP is conventionally implemented.

bmm6o 11y ago
> it's an imitation of OTP mechanism but has nothing to do with how OTP is conventionally implemented That's called a Viginere cipher and people stopped using it in the 19th century.
- sgy 11y ago
  i don't think it's related to Viginere. here's an example of repeated text that is not repeated when encrypted: http://i.imgur.com/i4XLLEm.png http://i.imgur.com/i4XLLEm.png
bmm6o 11y ago
> problem is that the algorithm itself is what makes the system strong. once revealed in a white paper, the whole thing is useless This is a deal-breaker. Your system is not strong if you rely on other people not knowing how it works. Nobody will use it because you can't convince them it's worth anything, you can't distribute it in code. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but again this is literally 19th century stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27s_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27s_principle .
- sgy 11y ago
  i agree. now this is something to get busy with. thanks a lot for taking the time to discuss it.
  - bmm6o 11y ago
    No problem. I hope I don't sound too negative. It can be fun to play around with ideas like this, and trying to see if you can crack your own systems. But there is a huge gulf between "this is fun and I'm learning something" and "I've discovered/built something totally new that other people will want to use", and if you aren't familiar with the current state of the art you aren't even speaking the same language.
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by sgy 11y ago

bmm6o 11y ago

> it's an imitation of OTP mechanism but has nothing to do with how OTP is conventionally implemented That's called a Viginere cipher and people stopped using it in the 19th century.

sgy 11y ago
i don't think it's related to Viginere. here's an example of repeated text that is not repeated when encrypted: http://i.imgur.com/i4XLLEm.png http://i.imgur.com/i4XLLEm.png

bmm6o 11y ago

> problem is that the algorithm itself is what makes the system strong. once revealed in a white paper, the whole thing is useless This is a deal-breaker. Your system is not strong if you rely on other people not knowing how it works. Nobody will use it because you can't convince them it's worth anything, you can't distribute it in code. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but again this is literally 19th century stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27s_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27s_principle .

sgy 11y ago
i agree. now this is something to get busy with. thanks a lot for taking the time to discuss it.
- bmm6o 11y ago
  No problem. I hope I don't sound too negative. It can be fun to play around with ideas like this, and trying to see if you can crack your own systems. But there is a huge gulf between "this is fun and I'm learning something" and "I've discovered/built something totally new that other people will want to use", and if you aren't familiar with the current state of the art you aren't even speaking the same language.
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