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You say in Africa where black are majority it is ok to be racist against them? Your logic is so broken I don't even know where to start.

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- istvan__ 11y ago
  But your logic suggests that racism is not the dictionary definition but it has to do who is in minority or who is in majority. That is wrong. The definition "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." Until you change it in the dictionary this will be the definition and it has nothing to do with who is in majority and your "social constructs".
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  - codygman 11y ago
    I prefer to go by this definition of racism: "Racism, however, describes patterns of discrimination that are institutionalized as “normal” throughout an entire culture. It’s based on an ideological belief that one “race” is somehow better than another “race”. It’s not one person discriminating at this point, but a whole population operating in a social structure that actually makes it difficult for a person not to discriminate." Racial slurs not backed by institutionalized racism are just laughable. For instance if someone called me "Cracker" I'd laugh about it since there isn't a huge past history of people lynching, raping, and harming my race while they chant "Cracker". You can't say the same about the N-word however. 0: http://racismschool.tumblr.com/Racism:Definitions http://racismschool.tumblr.com/Racism:Definitions
    - istvan__ 11y ago
      Again, come back to this when you definition made it to the dictionary.
      - dang 11y ago
        Comments like this one and "Your logic is so broken I don't even know where to start" break the HN guidelines. Please read and follow them when commenting here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        istvan__ 11y ago
        Asking somebody to stick to the dictionary definition of words is against HN guidelines?? I am going to take a screenshot and put in on the wall in the office. Thank you!
        dang 11y ago
        No, what is against the guidelines are (a) taking swipes at other users, (b) calling names, and (c) posting unsubstantive comments.
        istvan__ 11y ago
        Funny that you never asked the other guys who did the exact same thing to me publicly to stop. I like how HN just like Reddit is turning into a propaganda machine where you remind everybody who does not support your agenda to follow the rules while all the guys who support your agenda can happily do against the rules, regardless how big lies they are spreading. Thanks for proving to me that you are no different, double standards for the win! I guess I will just stick to commenting outside HN.
        dang 11y ago
        It's not only possible but certain that we don't chastise all violations of the HN guidelines equally, simply because we don't see them all. There are overwhelmingly too many comments for us to read. That doesn't matter in most cases, though, because commenters on HN are required to follow the guidelines even when others are not. Especially when others are not. There's no agenda that I'm aware of, other than to have HN threads be civil and substantive.

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istvan__ 11y ago
But your logic suggests that racism is not the dictionary definition but it has to do who is in minority or who is in majority. That is wrong. The definition "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." Until you change it in the dictionary this will be the definition and it has nothing to do with who is in majority and your "social constructs".
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- codygman 11y ago
  I prefer to go by this definition of racism: "Racism, however, describes patterns of discrimination that are institutionalized as “normal” throughout an entire culture. It’s based on an ideological belief that one “race” is somehow better than another “race”. It’s not one person discriminating at this point, but a whole population operating in a social structure that actually makes it difficult for a person not to discriminate." Racial slurs not backed by institutionalized racism are just laughable. For instance if someone called me "Cracker" I'd laugh about it since there isn't a huge past history of people lynching, raping, and harming my race while they chant "Cracker". You can't say the same about the N-word however. 0: http://racismschool.tumblr.com/Racism:Definitions http://racismschool.tumblr.com/Racism:Definitions
  - istvan__ 11y ago
    Again, come back to this when you definition made it to the dictionary.
    - dang 11y ago
      Comments like this one and "Your logic is so broken I don't even know where to start" break the HN guidelines. Please read and follow them when commenting here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - istvan__ 11y ago
        Asking somebody to stick to the dictionary definition of words is against HN guidelines?? I am going to take a screenshot and put in on the wall in the office. Thank you!
        dang 11y ago
        No, what is against the guidelines are (a) taking swipes at other users, (b) calling names, and (c) posting unsubstantive comments.
        istvan__ 11y ago
        Funny that you never asked the other guys who did the exact same thing to me publicly to stop. I like how HN just like Reddit is turning into a propaganda machine where you remind everybody who does not support your agenda to follow the rules while all the guys who support your agenda can happily do against the rules, regardless how big lies they are spreading. Thanks for proving to me that you are no different, double standards for the win! I guess I will just stick to commenting outside HN.
        dang 11y ago
        It's not only possible but certain that we don't chastise all violations of the HN guidelines equally, simply because we don't see them all. There are overwhelmingly too many comments for us to read. That doesn't matter in most cases, though, because commenters on HN are required to follow the guidelines even when others are not. Especially when others are not. There's no agenda that I'm aware of, other than to have HN threads be civil and substantive.