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You can use Community at work as long as you are a small enterprise (less than 5 dev) and you make less than some (huge) amount per year.

dragonwriter 11y ago
> You can use Community at work as long as you are a small enterprise (less than 5 dev) and you make less than some (huge) amount per year. $1 million annual revenue isn't exactly a huge amount.
- RoboSeldon 11y ago
  Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises. $1 million in revenue is a very small enterprise.
    - GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
      $1200 for VS professional is one tenth of one percent of a million dollars, plus you get a msdn subscription, and if you're paying a programmer more than $62400 (gross) it's less than a week's salary.
      - cm2187 11y ago
        I think you confuse revenues and profit.
        GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
        I don't think I am? There's a million bucks a year going in, and then some big chunk going out, and what's left over is profit. What I pointed out is of that million dollars coming in the door, the amount extra that would have to go out is not that much in absolute terms, and not that much as compared to a programmer.
- tracker1 11y ago
  Agreed... if you have 5 software developers, and other overhead, you'll hit that while barely at a break even point. That said, the relative costs if you have that many employees is pretty small. I don't think the break point is particularly unfair... there are lots of students, and small/indie developers that can use the Community Edition, where before you had to cobble along with the Express versions. I now use Community at home, which is just easier to deal with.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > I don't think the break point is particularly unfair... I wasn't saying it was unfair, just that characterizing $1 million in revenue as "huge" was, well, pretty ludicrous.

dragonwriter 11y ago

> You can use Community at work as long as you are a small enterprise (less than 5 dev) and you make less than some (huge) amount per year. $1 million annual revenue isn't exactly a huge amount.

RoboSeldon 11y ago
Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises. $1 million in revenue is a very small enterprise.
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
    $1200 for VS professional is one tenth of one percent of a million dollars, plus you get a msdn subscription, and if you're paying a programmer more than $62400 (gross) it's less than a week's salary.
    - cm2187 11y ago
      I think you confuse revenues and profit.
      - GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
        I don't think I am? There's a million bucks a year going in, and then some big chunk going out, and what's left over is profit. What I pointed out is of that million dollars coming in the door, the amount extra that would have to go out is not that much in absolute terms, and not that much as compared to a programmer.
tracker1 11y ago
Agreed... if you have 5 software developers, and other overhead, you'll hit that while barely at a break even point. That said, the relative costs if you have that many employees is pretty small. I don't think the break point is particularly unfair... there are lots of students, and small/indie developers that can use the Community Edition, where before you had to cobble along with the Express versions. I now use Community at home, which is just easier to deal with.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > I don't think the break point is particularly unfair... I wasn't saying it was unfair, just that characterizing $1 million in revenue as "huge" was, well, pretty ludicrous.