In Zen, it is said that "aggregates" (things) have no "self nature", that all things arise in "codependent origination" -- you can't get a driver in a universe

In Zen, it is said that "aggregates" (things) have no "self nature", that all things arise in "codependent origination" -- you can't get a driver in a universe without cars, nor a car without drivers. One seeks not the "car-ness" in cars, but their context. The "seeing as" notion amounts to the same rejection of Platonic ideals.