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Looking at this[0] table of least corrupt countries by perception, Europe has 7 in the top 10. Least corrupt. Least. Occam's razor: The person who worked in in

by forloop 11y ago

Looking at this[0] table of least corrupt countries by perception, Europe has 7 in the top 10. Least corrupt. Least. Occam's razor: The person who worked in intelligence, and is/was a Washington lawyer lied. Even without data, that surely must have crossed people's minds, no?! [0] https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results

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- forloop 11y ago
  I've seen the site quoted in The Guardian (a newspaper of record). Feel free to investigate their methods, and report back! I take them as being somewhat credible. As do you by your own admission.
differentView 11y ago
> Looking at this[0] table of least corrupt countries by perception, Europe has 7 in the top 10. Least corrupt. Least. > Occam's razor: The person who worked in intelligence, and is/was a Washington lawyer lied. Even without data, that surely must have crossed people's minds, no?! > [0] https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results Perception != reality He was referring to bribery of foreign countries (such as Brazil and Saudi Arabia in his examples) that U.S. and European countries compete to win contracts. Even according to the PERCEPTION index, they're of tiny European countries not named France. Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Luxembourg. A combined population that's about 9 million fewer than that of Italy.
- forloop 11y ago
  The cryptome.org article refers to Europe. > He was referring to bribery of foreign countries (such as Brazil and Saudi Arabia in his examples) that U.S. and European countries compete to win contracts. From the first line of the cryptome.org article: 'What is the recent flap regarding Echelon and U.S. spying on European industries all about?' > Perception != reality Sorry, they don't have the actual corruption statistics available!

by forloop 11y ago

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forloop 11y ago
I've seen the site quoted in The Guardian (a newspaper of record). Feel free to investigate their methods, and report back! I take them as being somewhat credible. As do you by your own admission.

differentView 11y ago

> Looking at this[0] table of least corrupt countries by perception, Europe has 7 in the top 10. Least corrupt. Least. > Occam's razor: The person who worked in intelligence, and is/was a Washington lawyer lied. Even without data, that surely must have crossed people's minds, no?! > [0] https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results https://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results Perception != reality He was referring to bribery of foreign countries (such as Brazil and Saudi Arabia in his examples) that U.S. and European countries compete to win contracts. Even according to the PERCEPTION index, they're of tiny European countries not named France. Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Luxembourg. A combined population that's about 9 million fewer than that of Italy.

forloop 11y ago
The cryptome.org article refers to Europe. > He was referring to bribery of foreign countries (such as Brazil and Saudi Arabia in his examples) that U.S. and European countries compete to win contracts. From the first line of the cryptome.org article: 'What is the recent flap regarding Echelon and U.S. spying on European industries all about?' > Perception != reality Sorry, they don't have the actual corruption statistics available!