7 ms·

considering the smog in Indian urban areas effectively everybody is smoking by western standards. this isn't even mentioned - but instead goes on about nutriti

considering the smog in Indian urban areas effectively everybody is smoking by western standards. this isn't even mentioned - but instead goes on about nutritional theories.

gonvaled 11y ago
One of the studies is based on the indian population of California
myth_buster 11y ago
There is some merit to having suspicion on nutrition. The amount of oil consumption is quite high. Every thing is fried or deep fried. You could easily see this in the snacks that are consumed with tea/coffee.
- ayushgta 11y ago
  Sure there is. However this article seems to make the point that just even if you eat right and are active, you are predisposed to these problems just by being of South Asian decent. The section of the article "The Indian/South Asian Risk Factor" talks about that.
  - myth_buster 11y ago
    From what I understoon, the section says: begun to unearth unique South Asian risk factors that _may_ have genetic underpinnings and gives example of one mutation. The rest of "additional genetic and lifestyle-related risk factors" are primarily lifestyle or diet related.
- chimeracoder 11y ago
  > The amount of oil consumption is quite high. Every thing is fried or deep fried. You could easily see this in the snacks that are consumed with tea/coffee. This isn't really accurate. It's is the common conception of Indian food based on what is usually available in the States, but that's usually only Punjabi food, and even for Punjabi food it's the sort of cuisine that you'd cater for a wedding. It's not at all representative of what people eat on a daily basis. It's like going to P.F. Chang's or Tex-mex and assuming that that's what people typically eat in China and Mexico (respectively). Indian and Bangladeshi cuisines vary quite significantly by region, and in at least some cuisines there's very little oil and/or fried food.
- eclipxe 11y ago
  It's not the oil, it's the carbs
notacoward 11y ago
OK, then why does the same effect seem to exist in Indians living elsewhere, and not among non-Indians in other smoggy places (e.g. China)? The smog factor was already accounted for. There's still something going on here, and several credible genetic/metabolic explanations are being examined. That's science. Presenting obviously-irrelevant facts as explanations is how science gets derailed (and apparenty the local tone police are more than happy to help with that).
- dang 11y ago
  > That's how science works. Learn it. No acerbic swipes on Hacker News, please.

considering the smog in Indian urban areas effectively everybody is smoking by western standards. this isn't even mentioned - but instead goes on about nutritional theories.

gonvaled 11y ago

One of the studies is based on the indian population of California

myth_buster 11y ago

There is some merit to having suspicion on nutrition. The amount of oil consumption is quite high. Every thing is fried or deep fried. You could easily see this in the snacks that are consumed with tea/coffee.

ayushgta 11y ago
Sure there is. However this article seems to make the point that just even if you eat right and are active, you are predisposed to these problems just by being of South Asian decent. The section of the article "The Indian/South Asian Risk Factor" talks about that.
- myth_buster 11y ago
  From what I understoon, the section says: begun to unearth unique South Asian risk factors that _may_ have genetic underpinnings and gives example of one mutation. The rest of "additional genetic and lifestyle-related risk factors" are primarily lifestyle or diet related.
chimeracoder 11y ago
> The amount of oil consumption is quite high. Every thing is fried or deep fried. You could easily see this in the snacks that are consumed with tea/coffee. This isn't really accurate. It's is the common conception of Indian food based on what is usually available in the States, but that's usually only Punjabi food, and even for Punjabi food it's the sort of cuisine that you'd cater for a wedding. It's not at all representative of what people eat on a daily basis. It's like going to P.F. Chang's or Tex-mex and assuming that that's what people typically eat in China and Mexico (respectively). Indian and Bangladeshi cuisines vary quite significantly by region, and in at least some cuisines there's very little oil and/or fried food.
eclipxe 11y ago
It's not the oil, it's the carbs

notacoward 11y ago

OK, then why does the same effect seem to exist in Indians living elsewhere, and not among non-Indians in other smoggy places (e.g. China)? The smog factor was already accounted for. There's still something going on here, and several credible genetic/metabolic explanations are being examined. That's science. Presenting obviously-irrelevant facts as explanations is how science gets derailed (and apparenty the local tone police are more than happy to help with that).

dang 11y ago
> That's how science works. Learn it. No acerbic swipes on Hacker News, please.