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They also showed some outside parking places. Security is not a problem inside but what about outside? Do the cameras serve a dual role, is the bike insured aga
by errtnsd 11y ago
They also showed some outside parking places. Security is not a problem inside but what about outside? Do the cameras serve a dual role, is the bike insured against theft?
- BetaMechazawa 11y agoMost of the time cameras are present.
- errtnsd 11y agoThey use cameras for counting free spaces as they mention in the video. Nothing is said about security. Having cameras does not mean you have actual recording and surveillance.
- vdijkbas 11y ago(I'm the CTO of LumiGuide who developed this system). We're currently not using the system for video surveillance. Images from the cameras are only stored in memory for a short period of time while being processed by our CV algorithm. However, since bicycle theft is a common theme in the Netherlands, there's strong interest from municipalities for using our system for video surveillance. So we're now researching how to extend our system for doing that.
- errtnsd 11y agoGreat! I hope you succeed.
- nosuchthing 11y agoAll things considered, preventing theft via active physical structure, vs pursuing a thief AFTER the theft occurred seems to be preferable no? Ask New Yorkers or Londoners how well video surveillance helps prevent or catch thieves.. [1] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/5859909526_af35d1a4de_z.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/5859909526_af35d1a4de_z.... [2] http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/wave-by-joe-mattley.jpeg http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/wave-by-joe-mattley.... [3] http://www.landscapeonline.com/products/images/prod_baa1e2558f34a42bb80244948dd18147.jpg http://www.landscapeonline.com/products/images/prod_baa1e255...
- fragmede 11y agoActually, from the article, the opposite is expressly mentioned: ..."The sensors look like cameras, but the images are not captured or saved, so the cyclist’s privacy is not violated.”
- Cthulhu_ 11y agoNo, bikes are almost never insured against theft, that's the person's own responsibility (lock and chain), and even then sometimes you're just out of luck. Having your bike stolen is one of the experiences every Dutchman has to go through. That's also why there's a huge secondhand / cheap bike trade, or why you won't see much expensive bikes in the big cities like that. And for the few kilometers (if that) between your house and a train station, you don't really need anything fancy either.
- errtnsd 11y agoI can lock the bike almost anywhere anyway, I thought this would help protect it. I don't see any reason to use this service.
- teddythetwig 11y agoThe bike parking lots are generally located in extremely convenient places such as next to train stations, or near large squares. In the Netherlands, there are a lot of places that you can't park your bike, unlike in the US where you can just lean it against a wall. As you can see in the video, most of these parking lots feature the double level racks. It was hard for me to understand why this was necessary before I moved here from the US, but if you ever travel to the Netherlands, you will be amazed by the amount of bicycles. Being able to fit 2x as many bicycles in the same square footage is 100% necessary.
- rogeryu 11y agoYou can lock your bike however you want, but any experienced thief can remove those locks within minutes. No reasonable priced combination of locks keeps a thief from taking your bike. Luckily there are so many bikes in Utrecht and Amsterdam and especially around Central Station (10-20k), that chances that they take your bike are really low. Then if you use a good lock, one that takes an extra minute to break, and if you put your bike in a good location, you're relatively safe.
- errtnsd 11y agoInteresting. Certain animals use herding, the same strategy, against predators.