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That's nothing compared to the comments that show up in "HARRY_READ_ME.txt": http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=118625&page=13 http://www.ticke

by gaika 17y ago

That's nothing compared to the comments that show up in "HARRY_READ_ME.txt": http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=118625&page=13 http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=118625&#...

jordanb 17y ago
That excerpt reads to me as written by a frustrated programmer who was given a dataset that was poorly designed and lacks sufficient documentation. I've been in that situation before, as has anyone who's had to work with real-world data. This hack episode seems really scary to me. Getting angry at the computer, your suppliers, et cetra is all part of the development process --- as is writing angry comments and internal emails. It's a much less disruptive way to vent the frustration that comes with the job than punching your monitor.[1] I've not seen anything anybody's posted that doesn't happen at every development organization in the world. I really feel for those guys and the firestorm they must be in now. And to be frank. I hope the criminals who broke into their computers are captured and prosecuted. [1] The nicest thing about the old CRTs is that they could take a good smack or two.
- bliving 17y ago
  You're referring to the dataset that is the basis of enormous de-industrialization projects. Is it too much to ask to have it properly designed with sufficient documentation? ~A Jedi hand wave~ "These are not the smoking guns your are looking for."
  - abstractbill 17y ago
    "enormous de-industrialization projects" Honest question: What projects are you referring to?
    - bliving 17y ago
      I apologize if I've distracted anyone with the "industrial" reference. I'm much more interested in the science behind the climate change [insert synonym for industry here]. I am very sorry that any industrial effects are more interesting the the quality-of-science issues. But here we are discussing industry... It's my understanding ( and please correct me if I'm wrong ) that the dataset in question is one of the core underpinnings of the findings of the UN's IPCC. And I'm not up-to-date on the policy implications in your country, unless you live in Canada. But in chilly Canada, I see our local carbon-tax lobby use the global warming meme in their effort to impose heavy taxes on our industrial base. Hence, the "de-industrialization" angle. I'm concerned that this might involve more power-grabbing than scientific concern for our future. Hence the interest in properly designed and documented datasets.

by gaika 17y ago

jordanb 17y ago

That excerpt reads to me as written by a frustrated programmer who was given a dataset that was poorly designed and lacks sufficient documentation. I've been in that situation before, as has anyone who's had to work with real-world data. This hack episode seems really scary to me. Getting angry at the computer, your suppliers, et cetra is all part of the development process --- as is writing angry comments and internal emails. It's a much less disruptive way to vent the frustration that comes with the job than punching your monitor.[1] I've not seen anything anybody's posted that doesn't happen at every development organization in the world. I really feel for those guys and the firestorm they must be in now. And to be frank. I hope the criminals who broke into their computers are captured and prosecuted. [1] The nicest thing about the old CRTs is that they could take a good smack or two.

bliving 17y ago
You're referring to the dataset that is the basis of enormous de-industrialization projects. Is it too much to ask to have it properly designed with sufficient documentation? ~A Jedi hand wave~ "These are not the smoking guns your are looking for."
- abstractbill 17y ago
  "enormous de-industrialization projects" Honest question: What projects are you referring to?
  - bliving 17y ago
    I apologize if I've distracted anyone with the "industrial" reference. I'm much more interested in the science behind the climate change [insert synonym for industry here]. I am very sorry that any industrial effects are more interesting the the quality-of-science issues. But here we are discussing industry... It's my understanding ( and please correct me if I'm wrong ) that the dataset in question is one of the core underpinnings of the findings of the UN's IPCC. And I'm not up-to-date on the policy implications in your country, unless you live in Canada. But in chilly Canada, I see our local carbon-tax lobby use the global warming meme in their effort to impose heavy taxes on our industrial base. Hence, the "de-industrialization" angle. I'm concerned that this might involve more power-grabbing than scientific concern for our future. Hence the interest in properly designed and documented datasets.