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What balls are involved in latching on to this generation's witch hunt, getting rich off of presenting nothing but circumstantial evidence and sitting in a room

What balls are involved in latching on to this generation's witch hunt, getting rich off of presenting nothing but circumstantial evidence and sitting in a room on the other side of the planet for a decade trying an empty chair? That isn't justice, it's politically motivated theater. They even rented out a basketball court, seats and all, for their production. This is a convenient and profitable which hunt fueled by the money we decided to burn witches with. The amount of time and resources spent on the incident are far out of proportion to crimes occurring all over the world by all sides. You know how often we take out politically inconvenient people? So often we have a kill list. The last times tribunals like this were held was Tokyo, Nuremburg, Cambodia then Sierra Leone. Singling out this incident is not in sync with the esteem we usually hold towards these trials to hold powerful state level actors responsible for the mass crimes against humanity and millions of deaths incurred because of their actions. If this was about justice people who actually have some control over the matter would be tried. It isn't, so a proxy tribunal with literally no defendants is held. Justice is served.

classicsnoot 11y ago
Exciting! Let's jump right in: >What balls are involved...an empty chair? The chair[s] would not be empty if the regional government[s] would apprehend the accused. Getting rich? maybe... from my perspective, law enforcement, healthcare, security, and jurisprudence should all be volunteer efforts. Do you agree? >That isn't justice...for their production. I guess you are wishing the spent more money to build a suitable edifice for this particular case? Doesn't really jive with your consistent gripes about reckless capital waste... >This is a convenient...burn witches with. You are flogging the term 'witch hunt' so much even you can't keep the spelling strait. AFAIK, the WH term applies when any actor[s] is attempting to ferret out an illusory foe. Do you honestly believe that Muslim Extremists do not exist? >The amount of time...by all sides This is just ignorant and insulting. These motherfuckers pushed Lebanon back 15 years because of their stupid religiosity. They killed more than a politician and some bodyguards; the murdered a nation's shot at becoming self reliant and self regulated. >You know how...a kill list. Newsflash: lots of nation-states have a snuff list. Also, who is this we? The EU? The ICC? The US? Israel? Kind of hypocritical to paint us all with the same brush, m8. If it were up to 'we', I'd recommend a Hellfire through the front door, but thankfully the 'witch hunters' actually want to give these fucktards their day in court. >The last time...[and] Sierra Leone. ...Kenya, Croatia, Serbia would be more recent examples, but it is a needless quibble. Are you opposed to the ICC taking on cases from the Levant because you sympathize with the folks there? Or maybe you think there should be a minimum threshhold of 'o god wat the fuck'-edness to necessitate legal proceedings? Is it gross total deaths? Do you take into account regional destabilization? >Singling out this...of their actions. I do not feel the need to reiterate the point that this is more than just a handful of dead people. >If this was...Justice is served. sigh You are butthertz, but i am struggling to see why. What is in any way defensible about what was done here on the 'crime' side? You are dead on: this is a proxy tribunal. The guilty parties for this specific event are multitudinous. When some dipshit murders a person for their watch, it would be just to throw the whole system [parents, peers, teachers] on trial, but A)that wouldn't work and B) double jeopardy standard might write a blank check for every crime after. Please understand: i do not think this is the best case scenario. But where should the process begin? Are you like the climate shift deniers that believe because there is a measurable degree of unknown all of the other evidence should be tossed? Because we cannot state with 100% certainty who the guilty parties are we should just let it go? I really want to know, what do you believe should happen here in this case specifically?

classicsnoot 11y ago

Exciting! Let's jump right in: >What balls are involved...an empty chair? The chair[s] would not be empty if the regional government[s] would apprehend the accused. Getting rich? maybe... from my perspective, law enforcement, healthcare, security, and jurisprudence should all be volunteer efforts. Do you agree? >That isn't justice...for their production. I guess you are wishing the spent more money to build a suitable edifice for this particular case? Doesn't really jive with your consistent gripes about reckless capital waste... >This is a convenient...burn witches with. You are flogging the term 'witch hunt' so much even you can't keep the spelling strait. AFAIK, the WH term applies when any actor[s] is attempting to ferret out an illusory foe. Do you honestly believe that Muslim Extremists do not exist? >The amount of time...by all sides This is just ignorant and insulting. These motherfuckers pushed Lebanon back 15 years because of their stupid religiosity. They killed more than a politician and some bodyguards; the murdered a nation's shot at becoming self reliant and self regulated. >You know how...a kill list. Newsflash: lots of nation-states have a snuff list. Also, who is this we? The EU? The ICC? The US? Israel? Kind of hypocritical to paint us all with the same brush, m8. If it were up to 'we', I'd recommend a Hellfire through the front door, but thankfully the 'witch hunters' actually want to give these fucktards their day in court. >The last time...[and] Sierra Leone. ...Kenya, Croatia, Serbia would be more recent examples, but it is a needless quibble. Are you opposed to the ICC taking on cases from the Levant because you sympathize with the folks there? Or maybe you think there should be a minimum threshhold of 'o god wat the fuck'-edness to necessitate legal proceedings? Is it gross total deaths? Do you take into account regional destabilization? >Singling out this...of their actions. I do not feel the need to reiterate the point that this is more than just a handful of dead people. >If this was...Justice is served. sigh You are butthertz, but i am struggling to see why. What is in any way defensible about what was done here on the 'crime' side? You are dead on: this is a proxy tribunal. The guilty parties for this specific event are multitudinous. When some dipshit murders a person for their watch, it would be just to throw the whole system [parents, peers, teachers] on trial, but A)that wouldn't work and B) double jeopardy standard might write a blank check for every crime after. Please understand: i do not think this is the best case scenario. But where should the process begin? Are you like the climate shift deniers that believe because there is a measurable degree of unknown all of the other evidence should be tossed? Because we cannot state with 100% certainty who the guilty parties are we should just let it go? I really want to know, what do you believe should happen here in this case specifically?