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> The local authorities helped us a lot, the forester aranged the cutting of two trees for us We killed two trees for a 15 minute long youtube video. Is this

by pXMzR2A 11y ago

> The local authorities helped us a lot, the forester aranged the cutting of two trees for us We killed two trees for a 15 minute long youtube video. Is this how little respect we all have for life?

cushychicken 11y ago
An acre and a half of Amazon rainforest disappears every hour, and this is the deforestation you get upset about. Don't you have better things to do, outrage junkie?
- pXMzR2A 11y ago
  > An acre and a half of Amazon rainforest disappears every hour, and this is the deforestation you get upset about. According to this logic, I ought to not get upset, nor criticize any policy, perspective, or activity that causes less deaths than a previous or current one did. Assuming that for you, trees < animals < humans, since the European colonization of Americas killed off about 100 million human beings, I will have to wait for a catastrophe that kills off 101 million people to criticize anything that happens on earth. Convenient.
nhayden 11y ago
Pretty sure they just trimmed the branches a bit for the box to drop.
- pXMzR2A 11y ago
  Nope, the author says they pretty much had the trees chopped, in a later comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9503287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9503287
  - nhayden 11y ago
    Well that sucks.
trhway 11y ago
may be cutting 2 trees in general isn't that big a deal in some situations, but looking at the photo it was definitely overkill in that situation - these trees were easily climbable and once up there it would be enough just to cut the branches the payload stuck onto.
- pinjiz 11y ago
  Author here, the payload hung about 20 meters ( ~60 feet) above ground, we tried to climb up those trees but couldn't make it up to more than 5 meters. We also lent a ladder, but realized that even a 15 meter ladder is not enough to reach the payload. It's also very dangerous without climbing experience and without any climbing equipment to climb up such trees. It was the only option for us to cut those trees down, since the wood workers of the town were just a few kilometers away from us. They directly processed the trees to firewood, which they were intended for. :)
  - pXMzR2A 11y ago
    > They directly processed the trees to firewood, which they were intended for. :) I honestly do not understand why you take video and pictures of a planet you do not care about. To try out your RPi toy, I guess? Or for some kind of publicity I do not quite understand? A tree's function is not to "get processed." It is the terms you use that are failing you. By "get processed" you mean "to be killed." And by "function" you mean "the value humans commonly attribute to it." Politics is indeed the art of using this kind of language-bending. You follow these by coming up with a bunch of excuses to legitimize the unnecessary damage you caused to the flora of that region out of sheer arrogance. > It's also very dangerous without climbing experience and without any climbing equipment to climb up such trees. You either try, or accept defeat and design a better vehicle. (1) I don't kill your partner just because s/he has parked her/his car at the spot where I wanted to park. (This is an exaggeration solely because we attribute more value to ourselves, out of arrogance, than to anything that we deem "other.") (2) You don't burn the computer because your software has a bug. (This example is for those readers who persist on not shedding the aforementioned arrogance.)
    - 11y ago

by pXMzR2A 11y ago

> The local authorities helped us a lot, the forester aranged the cutting of two trees for us We killed two trees for a 15 minute long youtube video. Is this how little respect we all have for life?

cushychicken 11y ago

An acre and a half of Amazon rainforest disappears every hour, and this is the deforestation you get upset about. Don't you have better things to do, outrage junkie?

pXMzR2A 11y ago
> An acre and a half of Amazon rainforest disappears every hour, and this is the deforestation you get upset about. According to this logic, I ought to not get upset, nor criticize any policy, perspective, or activity that causes less deaths than a previous or current one did. Assuming that for you, trees < animals < humans, since the European colonization of Americas killed off about 100 million human beings, I will have to wait for a catastrophe that kills off 101 million people to criticize anything that happens on earth. Convenient.

nhayden 11y ago

Pretty sure they just trimmed the branches a bit for the box to drop.

pXMzR2A 11y ago
Nope, the author says they pretty much had the trees chopped, in a later comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9503287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9503287
- nhayden 11y ago
  Well that sucks.

trhway 11y ago

may be cutting 2 trees in general isn't that big a deal in some situations, but looking at the photo it was definitely overkill in that situation - these trees were easily climbable and once up there it would be enough just to cut the branches the payload stuck onto.

pinjiz 11y ago
Author here, the payload hung about 20 meters ( ~60 feet) above ground, we tried to climb up those trees but couldn't make it up to more than 5 meters. We also lent a ladder, but realized that even a 15 meter ladder is not enough to reach the payload. It's also very dangerous without climbing experience and without any climbing equipment to climb up such trees. It was the only option for us to cut those trees down, since the wood workers of the town were just a few kilometers away from us. They directly processed the trees to firewood, which they were intended for. :)
- pXMzR2A 11y ago
  > They directly processed the trees to firewood, which they were intended for. :) I honestly do not understand why you take video and pictures of a planet you do not care about. To try out your RPi toy, I guess? Or for some kind of publicity I do not quite understand? A tree's function is not to "get processed." It is the terms you use that are failing you. By "get processed" you mean "to be killed." And by "function" you mean "the value humans commonly attribute to it." Politics is indeed the art of using this kind of language-bending. You follow these by coming up with a bunch of excuses to legitimize the unnecessary damage you caused to the flora of that region out of sheer arrogance. > It's also very dangerous without climbing experience and without any climbing equipment to climb up such trees. You either try, or accept defeat and design a better vehicle. (1) I don't kill your partner just because s/he has parked her/his car at the spot where I wanted to park. (This is an exaggeration solely because we attribute more value to ourselves, out of arrogance, than to anything that we deem "other.") (2) You don't burn the computer because your software has a bug. (This example is for those readers who persist on not shedding the aforementioned arrogance.)
  - 11y ago