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GitHub gearing for a Microsoft acquisition OR am I reading too much?

by hm8 11y ago

landr0id 11y ago
Definitely reading into it too much.
- astrodust 11y ago
  Given how a lot of Microsoft's competitors use GitHub, it'd be disastrous to acquire it.
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chimeracoder 11y ago
Probably reading too much, in this case. But since you mention it it'd make a lot of sense for Microsoft to want to buy Github. Microsoft has been doing a lot of cool stuff engineering-wise in recent years. They've released so many FOSS projects I've lost track[0]. But they still suffer from a problem of being "uncool" because of their past reputation. Which was deserved, but they've changed a lot[1]. Microsoft needs a new brand for their FOSS work, because the Microsoft brand is badly tainted in the FOSS world. Github is one of the few companies that could earn them respect in the FOSS world if they were to acquire them (and of course, not screw everything up). [0] Heck, I've literally lost track of the number of FOSS things they've released this week [1] Fifteen years ago, could you imagine Microsoft hosting a launch party for Debian? Because that's what they did this last weekend: http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/ http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debi...
- click170 11y ago
  IMO it would tarnish Github more than it would redeem Microsoft. You don't become cool by buying the cool new gadget-of-the-week just as you don't become cool by buying a cool company. Ill be comfortable calling them cool when they've demonstrated they no longer follow Embrace Extend Extinguish but until then they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. As far as I'm concerned they realized they tried to move to fast into the extinguishing phase so they're taking a step back into the extend phase. Im not falling for it.
  - chimeracoder 11y ago
    > Ill be comfortable calling them cool when they've demonstrated they no longer follow Embrace Extend Extinguish but until then they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying that Microsoft doesn't still have this intention to some degree. It's impossible to prove a negative, especially for such a large and fragmented company. But it's inconsistent that Microsoft still receives so much hate for having practice this a decade ago, when there are companies that are literally doing it today, in the plain light of day, in very large ways, and receiving far less criticism than Microsoft does. I say all this as a Linux user typing in Iceweasel from a Debian machine that has no non-free software on it except the wifi driver. I have no love for Microsoft or proprietary software, but they still receive so much criticism that it crowds out criticism of other companies that are just as bad today (or even worse) compared to Microsoft today.
    - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
      I have no love for Microsoft or proprietary software, but they still receive so much criticism that it crowds out criticism of other companies that are just as bad today (or even worse) compared to Microsoft today. They receive far less criticism these days than they have historically. Microsoft hatred in the Linux community is largely considered immature and/or anachronistic, and there is a ton of praise for what Microsoft has been doing with their research division and the service pivot they've been doing as of more recent. Which other companies are you referring to? Apple? Google? Those get tons of criticism.
    - clinta 11y ago
      I agree. In fact I think github is doing more to extend and extinguish. They are the ones who just introduced their own proprietary closed method of binary storage while git-annex was already there.
      - icey 11y ago
        If you're talking about Git-LFS, it's open source: https://github.com/github/git-lfs https://github.com/github/git-lfs The API spec is available here: https://github.com/github/git-lfs/blob/master/docs/api.md https://github.com/github/git-lfs/blob/master/docs/api.md There's a reference implementation here: https://github.com/github/lfs-test-server https://github.com/github/lfs-test-server
- jlarocco 11y ago
  If Microsoft bought GitHub, my first thought would be that GitHub was selling out, not that Microsoft was suddenly respectable. The "new" Microsoft is a lot better than the old Microsoft, but it's still not a company I feel comfortable doing business with.

GitHub gearing for a Microsoft acquisition OR am I reading too much?

by hm8 11y ago

GitHub gearing for a Microsoft acquisition OR am I reading too much?

landr0id 11y ago

Definitely reading into it too much.

astrodust 11y ago
Given how a lot of Microsoft's competitors use GitHub, it'd be disastrous to acquire it.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]

chimeracoder 11y ago

Probably reading too much, in this case. But since you mention it it'd make a lot of sense for Microsoft to want to buy Github. Microsoft has been doing a lot of cool stuff engineering-wise in recent years. They've released so many FOSS projects I've lost track[0]. But they still suffer from a problem of being "uncool" because of their past reputation. Which was deserved, but they've changed a lot[1]. Microsoft needs a new brand for their FOSS work, because the Microsoft brand is badly tainted in the FOSS world. Github is one of the few companies that could earn them respect in the FOSS world if they were to acquire them (and of course, not screw everything up). [0] Heck, I've literally lost track of the number of FOSS things they've released this week [1] Fifteen years ago, could you imagine Microsoft hosting a launch party for Debian? Because that's what they did this last weekend: http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debian-8-linuxfest/ http://openness.microsoft.com/blog/2015/04/21/microsoft-debi...

click170 11y ago
IMO it would tarnish Github more than it would redeem Microsoft. You don't become cool by buying the cool new gadget-of-the-week just as you don't become cool by buying a cool company. Ill be comfortable calling them cool when they've demonstrated they no longer follow Embrace Extend Extinguish but until then they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. As far as I'm concerned they realized they tried to move to fast into the extinguishing phase so they're taking a step back into the extend phase. Im not falling for it.
- chimeracoder 11y ago
  > Ill be comfortable calling them cool when they've demonstrated they no longer follow Embrace Extend Extinguish but until then they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying that Microsoft doesn't still have this intention to some degree. It's impossible to prove a negative, especially for such a large and fragmented company. But it's inconsistent that Microsoft still receives so much hate for having practice this a decade ago, when there are companies that are literally doing it today, in the plain light of day, in very large ways, and receiving far less criticism than Microsoft does. I say all this as a Linux user typing in Iceweasel from a Debian machine that has no non-free software on it except the wifi driver. I have no love for Microsoft or proprietary software, but they still receive so much criticism that it crowds out criticism of other companies that are just as bad today (or even worse) compared to Microsoft today.
  - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
    I have no love for Microsoft or proprietary software, but they still receive so much criticism that it crowds out criticism of other companies that are just as bad today (or even worse) compared to Microsoft today. They receive far less criticism these days than they have historically. Microsoft hatred in the Linux community is largely considered immature and/or anachronistic, and there is a ton of praise for what Microsoft has been doing with their research division and the service pivot they've been doing as of more recent. Which other companies are you referring to? Apple? Google? Those get tons of criticism.
  - clinta 11y ago
    I agree. In fact I think github is doing more to extend and extinguish. They are the ones who just introduced their own proprietary closed method of binary storage while git-annex was already there.
    - icey 11y ago
      If you're talking about Git-LFS, it's open source: https://github.com/github/git-lfs https://github.com/github/git-lfs The API spec is available here: https://github.com/github/git-lfs/blob/master/docs/api.md https://github.com/github/git-lfs/blob/master/docs/api.md There's a reference implementation here: https://github.com/github/lfs-test-server https://github.com/github/lfs-test-server
jlarocco 11y ago
If Microsoft bought GitHub, my first thought would be that GitHub was selling out, not that Microsoft was suddenly respectable. The "new" Microsoft is a lot better than the old Microsoft, but it's still not a company I feel comfortable doing business with.