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So to your mind it's more likely that the author is telling fish stories than it is the dominant financial caste ended up optimizing a given piece of tech to th

So to your mind it's more likely that the author is telling fish stories than it is the dominant financial caste ended up optimizing a given piece of tech to their best interest? Bokay.

briandear 11y ago
And you're such an angry bitter person that you automatically assume everything is racist? What are the qualifications of the article's author? You must have an exhausting life seeing racism behind every tree. What about the guys at Fuji film? Is their film anti-white and Asian biased? This whole discussion is absurd. Next thing we'll hear is that swimming pools are racist.
- dang 11y ago
  > And you're such an angry bitter person Please don't express disagreement this way on Hacker News, regardless of how strongly you disagree.
- danilocampos 11y ago
  >This whole discussion is absurd. Next thing we'll hear is that swimming pools are racist. Um. For a long time they were. Public pools were subject to racial segregation. Glad we have an expert on racism like yourself to help set us all straight here!
- anthonyb 11y ago
  You might not like the way he says it, but go back and read the article: Kathy Connor, an executive at Kodak, told Roth the company didn’t develop a better film for rendering different gradations of brown until economic pressure came from a very different source: Kodak’s professional accounts. Two of their biggest clients were chocolate confectioners, who were dissatisfied with the film’s ability to render the difference between chocolates of different darknesses. “Also,” Connor says, “furniture manufacturers were complaining that stains and wood grains in their advertisement photos were not true to life.” How is that not racist? The film wasn't an issue when it was just people of colour coming out poorly, but when it's chocolate and furniture being badly exposed, then they develop a new film.
tedunangst 11y ago
It's called crying wolf. Some aspects of photography may be optimized for whites; that doesn't mean everything is designed to make life harder for blacks. My camera apparently has the opposite problem. I can't autofocus on anything that's solid white. Did I accidentally buy the "black" model?
coldtea 11y ago
Or he just knows about optics and physics. Besides, where's the "racism" in the dominant financial caste optimizing a given piece of tech to their best interests? It's a commercial product, so you optimize it for your main market, which, for most of photography's life has been white.
- anthonyb 11y ago
  Er, that is pretty much a textbook example of racism.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    Only if you have never opened a dictionary or an actual textbook. A textbook example of racism is: "These people are inferior/primitive/stupid/immoral because they are black" (from which the colloraries come, like: "Lets exploit these infrerior people for slave labor". Or "I don't want these inferior people in my restaurant.) This case is, on the other hand: "Black people in the US don't have us much income (a fact), and are much fewer than white people (another fact). We should better optimize our film for the most common buyer, which would be white people". This has nothing to do with racism, it's basic economics. In fact if blacks were the most affluent or populous group, the same companies would target THEM in a heartbeat.
vernie 11y ago
It's spelled "bokeh"

So to your mind it's more likely that the author is telling fish stories than it is the dominant financial caste ended up optimizing a given piece of tech to their best interest? Bokay.

briandear 11y ago

And you're such an angry bitter person that you automatically assume everything is racist? What are the qualifications of the article's author? You must have an exhausting life seeing racism behind every tree. What about the guys at Fuji film? Is their film anti-white and Asian biased? This whole discussion is absurd. Next thing we'll hear is that swimming pools are racist.

dang 11y ago
> And you're such an angry bitter person Please don't express disagreement this way on Hacker News, regardless of how strongly you disagree.
danilocampos 11y ago
>This whole discussion is absurd. Next thing we'll hear is that swimming pools are racist. Um. For a long time they were. Public pools were subject to racial segregation. Glad we have an expert on racism like yourself to help set us all straight here!
anthonyb 11y ago
You might not like the way he says it, but go back and read the article: Kathy Connor, an executive at Kodak, told Roth the company didn’t develop a better film for rendering different gradations of brown until economic pressure came from a very different source: Kodak’s professional accounts. Two of their biggest clients were chocolate confectioners, who were dissatisfied with the film’s ability to render the difference between chocolates of different darknesses. “Also,” Connor says, “furniture manufacturers were complaining that stains and wood grains in their advertisement photos were not true to life.” How is that not racist? The film wasn't an issue when it was just people of colour coming out poorly, but when it's chocolate and furniture being badly exposed, then they develop a new film.

tedunangst 11y ago

It's called crying wolf. Some aspects of photography may be optimized for whites; that doesn't mean everything is designed to make life harder for blacks. My camera apparently has the opposite problem. I can't autofocus on anything that's solid white. Did I accidentally buy the "black" model?

coldtea 11y ago

Or he just knows about optics and physics. Besides, where's the "racism" in the dominant financial caste optimizing a given piece of tech to their best interests? It's a commercial product, so you optimize it for your main market, which, for most of photography's life has been white.

anthonyb 11y ago
Er, that is pretty much a textbook example of racism.
- coldtea 11y ago
  Only if you have never opened a dictionary or an actual textbook. A textbook example of racism is: "These people are inferior/primitive/stupid/immoral because they are black" (from which the colloraries come, like: "Lets exploit these infrerior people for slave labor". Or "I don't want these inferior people in my restaurant.) This case is, on the other hand: "Black people in the US don't have us much income (a fact), and are much fewer than white people (another fact). We should better optimize our film for the most common buyer, which would be white people". This has nothing to do with racism, it's basic economics. In fact if blacks were the most affluent or populous group, the same companies would target THEM in a heartbeat.

vernie 11y ago

It's spelled "bokeh"