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I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a c

by borgia 11y ago

I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them. I previously looked at sourcing modafinil but ultimately decided against it due the the sources available looking dodgy, a lack of clarity in the laws around it, etc. As more reputable companies emerge in the sector I think I may well end up giving the products a go.

HockeyPlayer 11y ago
I've heard good things about www.modafinilcat.com
- mahouse 11y ago
  That's gotta be the most American thing ever. A .com website that sells you drugs so you can work harder. And the website is designed to look like they are selling you lollies.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
    I can't say being marketed nootropics with an almost LSD-esque site really inspires confidence in me.
    - mrsteveman1 11y ago
      I really expected to see nyan cat bouncing across the screen while waiting for that site to load. I'm not sure if that would have been better or worse.
- mrmondo 11y ago
  I too have heard good things... (Says no more)
- lumpypua 11y ago
  I've had 4 or 5 successful orders. Great customer service too.
- borgia 11y ago
  Doesn't ship to Canada unfortunately.
- steego 11y ago
  Thank you guys for your informative endorsements! I wasn't sure if I was going to spend $80 on something that looks like its marketed to imbeciles, but now that you and the other two reputable HN news users endorsed it, I'm going to plop down the cash.
therobot24 11y ago
> gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is, and those who actually have ADHD (myself included) are not better at a job just because of the supplement. Remember that the drugs wear off, and those hours unmedicated can kill productivity in other ways from constantly being distracted - disorganization, forgetfulness, procrastination (not don't feel like it, think depression), inability to stop multitasking (this can really kill), ignoring details, impatience,... i could go on. > As more reputable companies emerge in the sector I think I may well end up giving the products a go Do you really need to though? There's no free lunch; these supplements are going to have side effects. Using baseball as an analogy here, if you're on a major league team getting millions to push your body for the few years you can keep up, i can see the draw of steroids. But if you're in the minors, why entertain the idea of anything other than basic nutrition, exercise, and a good night's sleep?
- lumpypua 11y ago
  > I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is It straight up does improve memory: * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20521323 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20521323 * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20589927 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20589927
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
> I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them. I don't think Adderall would really give ADHD suffers an advantage. It might bring them close to the level of others, but Adderall has its own effects, and ADHD isn't going to be completely eliminated by it. I'm not an ADHD sufferer myself, but from what I understand, Adderall is used to help cope with the condition by giving you improved concentration for a while. It doesn't eliminate it.
- falcolas 11y ago
  It brings your dopamine production up towards normal levels, letting your neurons connect to each other properly. The effect is that it doesn't improve concentration so much as it allows concentration in the first place.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
    Ah, that makes sense.

by borgia 11y ago

HockeyPlayer 11y ago

I've heard good things about www.modafinilcat.com

mahouse 11y ago
That's gotta be the most American thing ever. A .com website that sells you drugs so you can work harder. And the website is designed to look like they are selling you lollies.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
  I can't say being marketed nootropics with an almost LSD-esque site really inspires confidence in me.
  - mrsteveman1 11y ago
    I really expected to see nyan cat bouncing across the screen while waiting for that site to load. I'm not sure if that would have been better or worse.
mrmondo 11y ago
I too have heard good things... (Says no more)
lumpypua 11y ago
I've had 4 or 5 successful orders. Great customer service too.
borgia 11y ago
Doesn't ship to Canada unfortunately.
steego 11y ago
Thank you guys for your informative endorsements! I wasn't sure if I was going to spend $80 on something that looks like its marketed to imbeciles, but now that you and the other two reputable HN news users endorsed it, I'm going to plop down the cash.

therobot24 11y ago

> gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is, and those who actually have ADHD (myself included) are not better at a job just because of the supplement. Remember that the drugs wear off, and those hours unmedicated can kill productivity in other ways from constantly being distracted - disorganization, forgetfulness, procrastination (not don't feel like it, think depression), inability to stop multitasking (this can really kill), ignoring details, impatience,... i could go on. > As more reputable companies emerge in the sector I think I may well end up giving the products a go Do you really need to though? There's no free lunch; these supplements are going to have side effects. Using baseball as an analogy here, if you're on a major league team getting millions to push your body for the few years you can keep up, i can see the draw of steroids. But if you're in the minors, why entertain the idea of anything other than basic nutrition, exercise, and a good night's sleep?

lumpypua 11y ago
> I don't think Adderall/Strattera/Concerta/Ritalin/etc is as effective on those without ADHD as you're implying it is It straight up does improve memory: * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20521323 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20521323 * http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20589927 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20589927

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

> I suppose it's only natural that people are resorting to these when huge swathes of the American youth are being prescribed Adderall and similar and gaining a competitive edge with them over those who don't have access to them. I don't think Adderall would really give ADHD suffers an advantage. It might bring them close to the level of others, but Adderall has its own effects, and ADHD isn't going to be completely eliminated by it. I'm not an ADHD sufferer myself, but from what I understand, Adderall is used to help cope with the condition by giving you improved concentration for a while. It doesn't eliminate it.

falcolas 11y ago
It brings your dopamine production up towards normal levels, letting your neurons connect to each other properly. The effect is that it doesn't improve concentration so much as it allows concentration in the first place.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
  Ah, that makes sense.