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I wonder how much was used to build their ghost cities: http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2014-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas
by swframe 11y ago
I wonder how much was used to build their ghost cities:
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2014-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-ghost-cities-in-2014-2...
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- svachalek 11y agoThis always reminds me of people snickering about how much snow is in their backyard whenever the topic of climate change comes up. If you subtract the 15% unoccupied rate from your link from the 6.6 gigatons of concrete, it's still a lot more than the U.S. used in 100 years.
- nosuchthing 11y agoI wonder if sooner rather than later, those ghost cities might actually fill up once they bottom out and become affordable like how bad parts of SF or Oakland or NYC used to be cheap?
- seanmcdirmid 11y agoOrdos is in the middle of the Gobi. Build a ghost city in the middle of say Arizona, why would they come?
- refurb 11y agoWhen you need a permit to move to a city and you can't get one for Beijing, the middle of Gobi doesn't seem like a bad option.
- seanmcdirmid 11y agoMoving to a city doesn't majically get you a job and livelihood. There is already plenty of depopulated country side with plenty of livable space, people go where the actual jobs are. Edit: looks like things have gotten worse for Ordos: http://gizmodo.com/4-instant-cities-that-are-still-completely-empty-1693270774 http://gizmodo.com/4-instant-cities-that-are-still-completel...
- refurb 11y agoTrue, but my point was that in China the government exerts a lot more control on where people can go. Wouldn't surprise me that the Chinese gov't could fill an empty city if they wanted to.
- seanmcdirmid 11y agoI don't think that is true. Sure, there is the hukou system, but migrant workers have been free to move around since the 90s, and they do. If you handed out hukous in 3rd tier economically depressed new cities, I'm not sure if there would be many takers. And the properties in Kangbashi are all fairly high end anyways, the city hukou-deprived migrant workers probably wouldn't even be welcomed. China builds a lot of subsidized public housing on the city outskirts of major cities, but no one wants to live there because transportation is bad to where the jobs are.
- qwertyuiop1234 11y agoThey are being filled up. https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/koos-jansen/guest-post-5-chinese-ghost-cities-came-alive/ https://www.bullionstar.com/blogs/koos-jansen/guest-post-5-c...
- beachstartup 11y agopeople ridicule it because it's so different than the american way, which is to severely restrict housing construction to cause enormous increases in price so that nobody can afford to live anywhere without taking out massive loans, while poor people get kicked out of their homes.
- vonmoltke 11y agoThat is not the "American way". That is the way certain areas behave as they try to fight urbanization, but is not the way most areas behave.
- natrius 11y agoCan you give some examples of cities that don't do this? Every single city I'm familiar with does this, though Houston does it less than most places.
- freehunter 11y agoIt's hard to point to examples of cities that don't do it because it doesn't make the news when a new building is put up in Nashville. It doesn't make the news when a law to limit building height is never even proposed in Kalamazoo. It doesn't make the news when Akron's population increases 3% year over year. It does make the news when San Francisco's residents start getting driven out of the city. It does make the news when Madison limits the height of buildings downtown. Can you give me an example of people who didn't get a flat tire today? Of course not, because that's just called normal functioning.
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